Comment Re:No, stop it. (Score 1) 116
Please god, no. There is ZERO chance in today's culture that it won't be "deconstructed" and shit on
This is a stack of bad moves in one sentence. “ZERO chance” is absolutism masquerading as insight. “Today’s culture” is a vague, all-purpose boogeyman with no defined meaning. “Deconstructed” is doing culture-war labor here, not analytical labor. It is a loaded buzzword meant to trigger a mood, not convey a testable claim. In plain English: this is an appeal to panic, wrapped in a sweeping generalization, with the evidence conveniently left out of frame.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - wait another 20 years until it can me made with some sanity!
That is not an argument. "Sanity” here is just a disguised value judgment: made according to your ideological preferences. You are trying to smuggle your taste in through the side door and present it as common sense. That is called "poisoning the well", and it is a favorite tactic of people who are trying to ride the anti-woke bandwagon.
because that is what our society does with everything these days. they take it and rip it apart for its pieces rather than viewing it as a whole.
And so an AC helpfully tries to upgrade your unsupported claim into a civilizational diagnosis. The fallacies here are almost gift-wrapped: hasty generalization, appeal to common knowledge, and unsupported claim to universiality. “Our society does this with everything” is the kind of sentence people write when they want the grandeur of cultural analysis without the burden of naming three examples that survive contact with reality. This is the rhetoric of the echo chamber—it aims for the grandeur of cultural analysis without the heavy lifting of actual data.
i won't list examples as they are plain as day to see and occur nearly every day with something new.
And there it is: the coward’s escape hatch. Refusing to provide examples because they are “plain as day” is not confidence, it is evasion. We have a name for this -- argument by insinuation. People who deploy it want their false conclusions to feel self-evident so they don’t have to do the work of proving it. Conveniently, that also makes the claim immune to scrutiny, because any request for evidence can be dismissed as blindness. Again, this what you see at any anti-DEI, anti-woke rally. It only works if your audience is already on board that particular crazy train.
Yup. Burden of proof is on people who want to claim TV ISN'T garbage today - our evidence is plainly self-evident.
And this is your cleanest self-own in the thread. No, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. That is how claims work. You do not get to declare modern television garbage, provide no evidence, and then act as if skeptics must disprove your ridiculous claim. That is not Russell’s teapot, by the way. If you are going to use it in a post, your really need to understand what it actually is saying. Russell’s teapot says the person asserting the invisible teapot bears the burden, not the person declining to genuflect before it. I know you don't want to believe this of yourself, but you are not invoking Russell’s teapot here. You are faceplanting into its exact opposite.
our evidence is plainly self-evident
Also no. “Self-evident” is not a substitute for evidence. It is what people say when they are trying to upgrade a vibe into a fact. If the evidence were actually self-evident, you would name it. This tells us everything we need to know about you and your intellectual integrity.
What makes you think this?
This is the only intellectually honest move in the chain. It asks for definition, scope, and evidence. That is exactly why your culture-war script short-circuits here. Once somebody asks for receipts, you spin into a symphony of fallacies and rhetorical errors.
I've watched television. That's conclusive proof.
“I have consumed media, therefore my sweeping thesis stands” is not reasoning. It is just anecdote cosplaying as a conclusion. Which series, specifically? If the evidence is plain as day then naming the garbage should be the easiest part of your argument. Without it, you're just gesturing at a cloud.
What you are doing here is not criticism. It is culture-war fortune telling. You make an absolute claim, refuses to define terms, decline to give examples, then try to reverse the burden of proof when challenged. That is not skepticism. That is ideological freeloading. This whole chain is a nice little museum of bad argument: loaded language, hasty generalization, appeal to vaguely defined terms, refusal to provide examples, and burden-shifting dressed up as common sense. The only thing missing is a PowerPoint deck titled “trust me, bro” that you got at some Turning Point USA rally. Your posts are textbook examples of 'Argument by Vibe'—a collection of loaded language and burden-shifting that collapses the moment someone asks for a single concrete example.