You're a fucking idiot.

I'm not and I have never said it shouldn't be a crime to incite panic in a crowd.

But if your government starts passing laws that say it's against the law to incite panic in a crowd and you aren't asking yourself why the fuck they're doing that when it's already illegal then you have turned your brain off and you need to turn it back on.

If the behavior in question is already a crime but your government is creating a law to make that behavior a crime then there's a reason they are doing that and it's to expand the definition usually so that they can abuse power.

At some point guys like you stopped being distrustful of the government. It's weird because you act like you're distrustful but then when the government grabs power you fall over yourself backwards to let them grab it and give them even more.

No I'm not an expert but I can fucking Google the phrase does Poland have obscenity laws and yes they do. The laws are actually much more strict than the laws here in the United states. They would easily cover snuff films.

I really wish you could think clearly. I don't know if it's the paint fumes or the paint chips or what not but you aren't thinking your way through this.

There are plenty of existing laws even in Poland that would cover posting snuff films online but those laws even if they're strict would require to prove that there is no journalistic value in what's being posted because they are obscenity laws.

I don't care if you're polish or American or whatever you are when your government is seeking to take something that is already covered by existing laws and add new laws then you have to ask yourself why aren't the existing laws working? And it's painfully obvious in this case that the government in question wants to abuse power and they can't do it under the existing laws.

I'm sure it's fine though, nothing bad ever happened from Europe promoting fascism right? Absolutely nothing bad at all...

So there was this little brouhaha over a certain fellow named George Floyd being executed in broad daylight by police and posting that video under a law like this would get you 5 years in prison.

I don't give a shit what the article says I'm talking about the inevitable and obviously intended results of laws like this. You do not write laws like this if you don't intend to use them to silence journalists and Free speech. Again like I said existing obscenity law covers shitty YouTube posters putting up snuff videos.

The reason nobody wants to use obscenity laws is that they only can be applied in the cases of extreme obscenity without any journalistic or artistic merit and you have to prove that in court usually. With a lot like this you could put somebody in front of a jury and the jury has to either convict them or go with something like jury nullification. This assumed your country has jury trials because otherwise you've got judges rolling on it but it's the same result where the law is written to force a outcome beneficial to a fascist state.

I am really sick and tired of people like you cheerfully giving up your rights. I could give a rat's ass what happens to you at this point but I'm sick of you dragging me and my family down with you because you can't understand how fascism works. For god sakes read a fucking history book

With Trump is President America's Financial system is so hopelessly corrupt and so completely unregulated that it just boils down to who has the most money and power. If both sides have equal money and power then like America and the USSR staring each other down instead of firing nukes nothing comes of it. On the other hand if you're a regular Joe schmo and a rich asshole rips off your cryptocurrency they get to keep it and you get to suck eggs. If somehow they get charged with a crime at the state level all they have to do is bribe the shit out of trump and Trump will threaten the local Governor until that Governor issues a pardon. If the governor digs their feet in Trump will illegally withhold federal funds but again we're not enforcing laws. This is exactly what happened in Colorado with a woman convicted of a State crime who should be rotting in prison right now for the crime but who is currently about to go free if she hasn't already.

There's a term for our current system of government, kakistocracy.

It means government by the least competent and most corrupt.

I used to think the old farts who put us in this situation were going to get away Scott free by dying peacefully of old age and a lot of them will but at this point they have fucked up so hard for so long with who they put in charge that a lot of them will not escape what's coming.

Go look into what's going on with the stock market with shit like the SpaceX IPO. It is very obviously and very transparently a scam to turn American 401k savings into a personal piggy Bank for the ultra ultra wealthy.

And it looks like Google is about to get in on that because they're going to put out something like 80 billion dollars worth of stock into a market that cannot possibly absorb that much stock.

The only way you can have these unprofitable tech companies, and yeah Google here is an unprofitable tech company because this is all about AI bullshit, the only way you can have these unprofitable tech companies throwing out this much stock and getting it bought up is by changing the rules so that they can be included in various index funds and other ultra low risk investments, in other words your 401k. But these are not low risk investments and they will eventually have to be paid for and they will be paid for by your retirement savings and mine.

The problem is even though everything I just wrote is readily verifiable just by watching a few videos from Patrick Boyle and maybe reading a few posts from senator Warren it's so out there and so outside what should be normal nobody wants to believe it and their first reaction is to vote down any post that brings it up. The only time you can talk about this shit is with people like Patrick Boyle that are more or less ignored because they are less Financial gurus and more court jester. Even though Court Jesters traditionally spoke truth to power. Oh Christ that's a phrase that triggers people with mod points

It's going to bother trying to increase its market share over time?

This is the trouble with conservative thinking. It's difficult for that kind of thinking to think past the next quarter. The people backing these kind of changes, the people who came up with the belt and road initiative and are gradually taking over africa, those guys think in decades.

It's not entirely the fault of conservative thinking, rather since most people have spent most of their lives living paycheck to paycheck it's extremely difficult for them to think in terms of decades let alone generationally. It doesn't help that human beings brains are just not equipped for that. We're supposed to be chasing down antelope not analyzing geopolitical bullshit...

Anyway this is about soft power, the ability to make another country do what you want them to do. Like how NBA stars don't criticize china, at least not if they want to keep playing for the NBA...

So a police officer beats the shit out of somebody right? You put that on the internet and now you've got 5 years in prison for it.

Seriously is anyone dumb enough that they don't see right through shit like this? There is already bound to be existing obscenity law that can be used against this kind of content. But those laws usually have a much higher bar to prove.

It's amazing how easy it was to get everybody to give up their rights and privacy and freedom. It took a while but the problem is the people working on this, the fascists, are always backed by huge amounts of cash. Most of their backers are going to end up dead in purges but when you've got that much money it gives you a big head and you think you're one of the movers and shakers right up until somebody like Putin stabs you with a umbrella or put something in your tea...

As for the rest of us anyone reading this is smart enough to know this is bad news but there's plenty of people who think they are in the in group and that they're going to get to be the ones wearing the boots when it comes time to stomp necks. They're not but if you're dumb enough to think it's fun to stop people's necks you're dumb enough to think you're going to be the one doing The stomping

I still don't know what they would be "winning".

Quoted against censorship mods.

But I have to go for the obvious joke since there is currently no Funny in the 'discussion'.

But Microsoft finally patched the last bugs and now we have nothing to worry about!

Then go for unfunny with a book citation. It's an oldie but interesting background on how Microsoft wound up here. Microsoft Secrets by Cusamano and Selby covers a lot of the history and processes of Microsoft's software development processes up to 1995.

Mod parent Funny for sad values thereof.

Vacuous Subject and an FP that simplifies complexity to the point of meaningless. How Slashdot for the modern age.

Judging roughly by the scrollbar, you seem to have spanned 1/3 of the large "conversation" that you never participated in again. Congratulations. For what?

Anyway, best recent book I've read on the topic was called Army of None by Paul Scharre. However that's "best" for rather limited values of the word "best" and didn't really say much in terms of solutions. Mostly just a status report with some historical context. Couldn't find any mention of that book in this discussion. Or any titles or authors. Reading completed thoughts is such hard work?

(Oh well. Back to exploring my new superpower of bus riding. It's already distorting and rescaling my senses of distance and time.)

Care to explain? I seem to be missing the Funny part of the joke. Implosive humor doesn't work as well as recursive?

Win what exactly?

People should watch Dark Star. "How do I know you are not false data?" "Doesn't matter, the concept is valid no matter where it originated from".

I'm just so sick of being lied to by powerful finance Bros and in such obvious ways, and I'm so such and tired of 47% of the country believing it...

Anecdote only from me of course.but for what it's worth...I'm left-handed. Subconsciously I consider left = "towards what I know" and right = "going further out". This applies to walking, driving...all of it.

I know it's not actually true of course, but if faced with an unfamiliar t-junction while driving or perhaps I'm just out on a walk to get some distance in, that's how I think of it.