> Stop imagining things and pretending your imagination is fact.
i say exactly the same to you, just because you don't agree in everything do not make the opposite automatically false
>>but probably now are much more open to the 2 states...
>Why do you think this? Go do actual research and find out what they think. It will be a much better use of your time.
hey, the facts show that, you are the one ignoring them! PLA have been trying to get recognitions all over the place, they join several UN organization (where they have been accepted), they welcome international recognition of the Palestinian state and open embassy were they can. That doesn't look they are rejecting the 2 stated... again, what they rejected was the all package (the extended borders that Israel wants... of course PLA wants all land, so Israel, the acceptable solution is getting a middle ground but the OSLO still gives way too much land to Israel, specially due to the settlers issue)
>It is easy to point fingers and say they rejected the 2 states
>Yes, because they rejected the 2 states many times, and continue to do so today.
As Israel reject dismantling the settlers in west bank and release control of "security areas", in fact, both continue expanding
Even talking with Israel made PLA weaker, imagine if they agree to a 2 states where they get a small corner of gaza, a few cities and a few rocky hills in west bank. Palestine need also to see something improving, not being forced to accept any bad deal
>> but the problem was that what was offered was not good enough, that is why OSLO was the start, not the full peace treaty.
> Stop imaging things. If you don't look for facts, you will always be wrong. What was offered?
i can give you facts, go read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
look to the maps, look to this with special attention:
Use of Area C
OCHAoPt map of Area C. More than 99% of Area C is heavily restricted or off-limits to Palestinian development, with 68% reserved for Israeli settlements, approximately 21% for closed military zones, and about 9% for nature reserves. Construction permits for residential or economic purposes are, according to World Bank, "virtually impossible" for Palestinians to obtain.[19]
Area C, 99% of which is excluded from Palestinian use, contains most of the West Bank's natural resources and open spaces, access to which, according to the World Bank, would enable the Palestinians to halve their budget deficit and lead to an expansion of their economy by a third.[20][19] According to Danny Rubinstein: "Much land in Area C is undeveloped. Israel, however, does not permit Palestinian construction for residential, commercial or industrial purposes."[21]
everyone knows that the map will be one of the hardest thing to negotiate, that is why i believe in small steps as a big one is almost impossible to get support from both sided, specially now
>>I know that many Israel people do want peace, also in the Palestine side.
>How do you know this? Go search and do research. Find real facts and stop making things up.
https://www.pewresearch.org/gl...
https://news.gallup.com/poll/6...
yet, i'm the one that show some facts and you only reply with "stop making things up" and give no facts in return... i don't know, looks like you simply do not accept facts that are against your opinion... i do not want to change your opinion but have you ever consider that you may not have the all truth and are blind to the other side. I try to read about both sides, but if you have different facts that i'm blind, please post them (other than the land is Israel or Palestinian by God right, that is a weak argument when both religions praise peace and sharing)