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Comment Re:70% of middle class jobs lost since 1980 (Score 1) 71

Some might say that anything done that can be done by a robot *should* be done by a robot. They are tools, after all. Should we ban wrenches next? The jobs being lost should *not* exist into the next century.

Nobody said otherwise but you had to prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that you missed the point.

The Luddites didn't say we shouldn't advance technology. They said that the advances in technology should benefit everyone, not just the capitalists at the top of the pyramid.

You are attacking a position that not even the Luddites held. Enjoy playing with your straw man, but you are adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

Comment Re:Oil and Gas Trolls (Score 1) 43

I see that Slashdot has been taken over by a lot of very uninformed people or people with an agenda that is entirely selfish.

You mean the nuclear playboys agitating to spend OUR MONEY on foolish bullshit that we don't need, and in fact we'd get more for OUR MONEY elsewhere? Your childish vagueposting doesn't specify and there's no need to announce your departure as this is not an airport, just fuck off already.

Comment Re: What's the motivation? (Score 1) 45

with a high return of energy generated per square meter of footprint

You're not accounting for lifecycle footprint, and you're also using an irrelevant metric. We have lots of room for solar.

It's not an either-or discussion, it's a fit for purpose one.

It's not an either-or discussion? So you're going to pay for both things to happen? Because here in the really real world, budgets are finite.

You seem to be latched on to numbers that don't matter in order to justify your OOH NEATO GLOWING ROCKS MAKE POWER fetish.

Comment Re: It's the water: Re:Is vice signaling (Score 1) 78

This is absolutely not the place to be making up or even repeating fanciful nonsense, because here there are lots of people who actually know something about data centers and data center operation.

So what does that have to do with you?

With dry-cooler-based designs, itâ(TM)s a closed-loop system with no evaporative water cooling â" outside of maybe 1% of the year when we might need chillers in some climates

Which in the really real world of global warming, can rapidly turn into a lot more than 1%. And designs like what's described above are IN THE MINORITY.

If you want to present yourself as knowing something about a subject, you'd better not immediately prove you don't, as you did here.

Comment Re:The purpose of a factory is not to provide jobs (Score 3, Insightful) 71

The purpose of a factory is not to provide jobs.

It's intended to made widgets that can then be sold at a profit.

It's not a social welfare program.

The way things are headed, the only way people are going to be able to obtain money to pay for those widgets is via social welfare programs.

Comment Re:Just accel the move from Blue to Red states (Score 1) 77

The ops jobs at a data center be they phys plant, security or IT, are a pretty decent and better than many jobs available in rural areas.

While this is true, those jobs are few in number.

Also, again, what negative "quality of life" impact is it having?

Historically, little. The bulk of DCs have typically been located where people could go to them because that used to be more necessary, and therefore they were concentrated around tech firms. And they were planned out years in advance, and mostly sited where it made sense. They also weren't maximally power-dense, as there were other considerations. AI DCs are more power intensive, as they're shoving as many processors and as much memory as possible into every rack. And they're building them fast and desperately, so anywhere they can find to cram them in.

That means yes, noise issues, but also lots of other problems associated with rapidly installing extremely power intensive facilities in awkward locations when infrastructure is already strained. Resulting issues with power and water availability are now well documented.

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