Ah, I see you've been working on the quality of your posting!

Train your own to do so then. I want 10% of your first billion for telling you it's possible.

Yeah.I had one of the last Intel Macs. My Mac mini with M4 processor simply runs rings around it. I also use the Adobe Suite, which appears to make even larger speed increases.

Yah, Hard to imagine why anyone would want to stick with an Intel Mac at this point.

You can't look up things yourself? Perhaps not. Anyhow, after the grid first went down, Your Governor blamed it on Frozen Wind turbines. Is that your. position? Regardless, your State wanted to avoid Federal oversight, and your state did not winterize the Natural gas infrastructure, Or the Turbines, though they were a small part of the problem. The drop-off in gas power due to lack of winterization accounted for 5X the drop for the turbines. So the separation form teh other grids made it difficult to import power. Anyhow, You really need to correct the Wikipedia page, which wrongfully seems to impute that the deregulation, and lack of winterization a dn the difficulty of importing power were the issues.

You can rewrite it with your truth if you like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

Yes, there is no question that Texas left the grid because of Federal regulations they did not want to comply with, which is very much a political stance. Don't like that? Not sure I can help.

Your demand that I am some left wing Texas h8er, and that shows much more about your leanings than mine. I point out the truth, and your political narrative requires you to attack me.

The truth is the truth , whether one is a commie, or a MAGA or any of the shades in between.

This is unknowable until we stop finding more complexity in the brain. That we keep doing that is how we how we can't make a brain replacement yet.

I would expect that our backward-ass leaders will instead get all nationalistic and prideful of the "homegrown" Microsoft monopoly

Then we must lead them down a better path.

"It takes four hundred thirty people to man a starship. With this, you don't need anyone. One machine can do all those things they send men out to do now. Men no longer need die in space, or on some alien world. Men can live, and go on to achieve greater things than fact-finding and dying for galactic space, which is neither ours to give or to take. You can't understand. We don't want to destroy life, we want to save it!" -- Blacula

In other words, the "gap" you describe is considered to be good news for the humans who have to do those jobs.

I say this jokingly, but I really did drink the Kool Aide, and I think it's just Kool Aide without any additional harmful ingredients. I'm seriously all for us at least striving to live a completely hedonistic lifestyle, where we never toil because our robots slaves do everything tedious for us.

I want to die in an Orion whorehouse, looking like a character from WALL-E. Only in my final moments do I want to learn the awful truth, when one of the green-skinned ladies' faceplate falls off, revealing a robot.

Ok, maybe it wasn't pure Kool Aide.

This screams bored kid that is trapped in the backseat of the family sedan. Like you had one family computer and your parents wouldn't let you build one or rip the panels off their car to see if it will go faster. I mean I get it.

Clearly having a finished well built product was more popular than "configuration options"

We've all grown out of this right? Somewhere in the past forty or so years we've all had the chance to buy, build, customize all of the above and conclude that a project car is cool and all but it doesn't make sense as the family grocery getter. Plus our personal hobby is just that, personal and a hobby. Projecting it onto some "culture" to imply it's bigger than that, just... please. I built my first Linux desktop on minimum wage working through high school money, a gadjillion years ago. I guess that privilege is what helped see past griping about windows not being something it wasn't (or Macs). I could do whatever I wanted with my own box and futzing with x server configs for one thing was not for everyone. More importantly I figured out you can have more than one system and the world doesn't fucking end.

Goofus is butthurt everyone else isn't driving project cars and blaming Toyota for going against "open" car culture. Gallant pulls up to his garage in a Corolla and rolls the door up to reveal a custom hot rod. Fuck off Goofus.

"Lots" and "one that is widely accepted" are not the same thing at all,

Which is why I specifically said "There are widely accepted ones too."

There's no point in discussing intelligence without first nailing down which definition the interlocutors are using.

Absolutely.

There is value in recognizing the problem, not dismissing it. There are lots of defnitions, many of which are fuzzy, because people who want to argue that humans (or specific groups of humans) are "intelligent" while others are not generally have to define intelligence in a very ad hoc way to support their argument. People who are interested in studying the subject generally have reasonable definitions. The former don't like the latter's definitions because they fail to provide the desired absolute threshold they desire.

My point was that the LLMs claim to know everything but when they don't know something they just make things up where a human is likely to say "sorry, don't know,"

me pointing out that much of that "knowledge" is garbage. That's it.

Hm. Those don't quite sound like the same thing. It's like you've been caught saying something silly and you're engaging in a bit of revisionism. On a public, threaded message board with no edit button, no less. If one were being uncharitable one might point out that the quite human phenomenon of "digging yourself in deeper" often follows the one of making shit up rather than saying you don't know.

The premise is that you would understand how it works. Once we've glossed over the story of finding that holy grail, then you can build minds with different amounts of spite. (e.g. doubly-infinite for a TortureBot, or decreased for most other uses.)

That's not entirely true. We don't have a good idea of how biological brains (simple or complicated) learn. There are some hints of how they might feed back error signals but we don't know in detail. There is the possibility, and people love to latch onto it, that brains are doing something that works better than gradient descent. There isn't really a good reason to believe that, and quite a few not to, except for handwavy comparisons like the summary makes.

Certainly the hardware is different, and that's where the obvious differences originate. The brain isn't really any more analog than your laptop though.

There are lots of definitions of what "intelligent" means. There are widely accepted ones too. There isn't really one where the human brain is, and everything else isn't.

Wait, are you suggesting I can simply hire humans, to design and manufacture these intelligent computers for me?!

Oh, duh, I get it! You're taking Bezos' own point of view, rather than the point of view of his engineers.

But how do the engineers create the intelligent computer? It's not hiring-people all the way down, is it?