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Comment Re:You'll end up with an empty repository (Score 1) 164

You thought what? Are you trolling? You're claiming you saw me, karmawarrior, on the Debian mailing list?

No, here on Slashdot.

sysvinit is literally why virtually every Linux distribution has had rescue disks since the beginning. Even Windows doesn't come with one.

IME, grub is that reason.

Literally an NFS mount not mounting in /etc/fstab because the network didn't come up properly has stopped sysvinit from booting my system.

You should have noauto in your options. Or today, better yet, use autofs.

The entire Unix world disagees that a set of fragile shell scripts is a great way to boot an operating system. That's why Mac OS X uses LaunchD/SystemStarter, and why the majority of BSDs have switched from a tightly written non-modular shell script intended (bypassing sysvinit altogether) to OpenRC

You mean where they're still using scripts?

Your anecdotal evidence that systemd once crashed on you but you somehow never ever had an unbootable Linux system with sysvinit suggests you've never actually maintained a serious Unix-like system with any complexity.

I've been maintaining serious Unix-like systems since I was a teenager, when at home I had a Sun SLC netbooting Xkernel from a 486 running Linux so I could run Netscape on a fanless system by my bed. Now I run Devuan with root on encrypted ZFS for funsies. You don't need to tell me about boot problems. I just don't blame my problems on sysvinit because I know which components are actually responsible, and it has never failed me. It does one job and does it well. I too have had my system be problematic because I could have done better with my fstab, but that's not sysvinit's fault.

Comment Re: What's the motivation? (Score 1) 165

1986 when the even happened: it was classified as a wild graphite fire that resulted in the explosion of a huge pile of graphite.

You have the cause and effect reversed. The cooling water in the reactor became supercritical and flashed to steam, causing the explosion. The graphite burned because it was already extremely hot and the explosion allowed oxygen to get to it, completing the fire triangle. I am old enough to remember 1986, too, and I would be interested in seeing your "1986 news source" that claims the graphite exploded, as solid graphite does not do that. Perhaps you are simply misremembering?

Your steam bullshit made me type wrong.

I respect that you originally wrote "hydrogen" in your previous comment and made a typographical error. However, there is no "steam bullshit" as this is the actual cause of the explosion. Additionally, "look at what you made me do" is something people who cannot accept responsibility for their own actions say when they're trying to blame other people for their errors.

Comment Re:70% of middle class jobs lost since 1980 (Score 2) 178

I now conservatives will squirm at the very thought of giving a living wage to someone who doesn't work for it.

Which is ironic because they completely do support that happening for the owning class, but not for them, even though they are promoting their own demise by supporting that class.

Comment Re: What's the motivation? (Score 1) 165

It is not called a steam explosion when the graphite moderator block explodes in fire. Obviously in such an explosion a lot of steam from the cooling system is created.

The graphite was not the material that provided the explosive force, the steam was. That's why it's called "a steam explosion." If you blow up a rockface with TNT, it's a "TNT explosion" and not "a rock explosion." This is not a difficult concept.

Fukushima "melted down" after power loss, due to the tsunami, and steam explosions wrecking the reactor vessels

Damn, you just love getting shit wrong. They were hydrogen explosions.

Comment Re: What's the motivation? (Score 1) 165

Chernobyl did not melt down.

It suffered a Graphite Explosion.

Completely different things.

Those are, indeed, completely different things but only one of them happened at Chernobyl. The graphite didn't explode, the explosion was caused by steam. The reactor also melted down. you can see pictures of the rather famous "elephant foot" proving such.

Comment Re:You'll end up with an empty repository (Score 1) 164

Claimed by whom?

The people at Debian who chose to adopt systemd with less than the usual amount of debate, and at other distributions as well. I thought you participated in these discussions at the time? Guess not.

sysvinit has been responsible for a number of unbootable environments over the years personally speaking, while I've always been able to log into a systemd system

sysvinit has never stopped me from booting, but systemd has. In fact I got into a situation where in order to troubleshoot booting, I would have had to use a debugger. That's when I noped out forever.

Pick something. Just not sysvinit. The latter hasn't been appropriate since the 1990s, it's ridiculous we continued using it as long as we did.

sysvinit with startpar and the LSB-derived daemon management boilerplate is more than adequate. If you want to use another init system, feel free, but there is absolutely no justification for deprecating sysvinit. You do not need sleep commands, you need to read the headers of some init scripts and see that they contain dependency information, then use dependency chaining to ensure that scripts fire in the correct order. It's really not different from filling out the appropriate fields of a unit file.

Comment Re:70% of middle class jobs lost since 1980 (Score 1) 178

Because we're too busy working middle class jobs to care about the ones that got lost to automation.

Middle class jobs? They sure don't fucking pay like middle class jobs. Most people who think they are in the middle class are in fact not.

after a 3 hours teams meeting I'm really hoping I can replace that shit with AI or something so I can get on to doing more productive work elsewhere.

That's not how it's going to work. In the past you'd replace people with automation and then they'd go get a job that was harder to automate. Well, now the job that's harder to automate requires a four year degree or better, and they're looking at automating that job away as well.

Humanity punted on sharing the wealth when this became an issue, but now there's no more time to waste not solving it, because we're at an inflection point. You're going to care if your job is lost to automation today if the other job you were going to do is lost to automation tomorrow.

Comment Re:70% of middle class jobs lost since 1980 (Score 2, Insightful) 178

Some might say that anything done that can be done by a robot *should* be done by a robot. They are tools, after all. Should we ban wrenches next? The jobs being lost should *not* exist into the next century.

Nobody said otherwise but you had to prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that you missed the point.

The Luddites didn't say we shouldn't advance technology. They said that the advances in technology should benefit everyone, not just the capitalists at the top of the pyramid.

You are attacking a position that not even the Luddites held. Enjoy playing with your straw man, but you are adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

Comment Re:Oil and Gas Trolls (Score -1, Troll) 165

I see that Slashdot has been taken over by a lot of very uninformed people or people with an agenda that is entirely selfish.

You mean the nuclear playboys agitating to spend OUR MONEY on foolish bullshit that we don't need, and in fact we'd get more for OUR MONEY elsewhere? Your childish vagueposting doesn't specify and there's no need to announce your departure as this is not an airport, just fuck off already.

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