Comment An eighth of a degree... (Score -1, Troll) 31
eclipsing the Dust Bowl's July 1936 by an eighth of a degree
What is the margin of error? Asking for a friend...
eclipsing the Dust Bowl's July 1936 by an eighth of a degree
What is the margin of error? Asking for a friend...
The link makes it clear it wasn't a distress call, you are not obligated to respond to a non-distress call. It's the reason distress calls are treated as a separate class.
Please cite in the link where it said any of this. It does not. It is as detailed as linking the Constitution and saying that it does.
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I had to look up the rules for larger "mandatory" vessels... and the result surprised me. Large vessels are required to have VHF radios and maintain a watch, but not on channel 16! They're required to maintain a watch on two channels, the bridge-to-bridge channel, 13, and the Vessel Traffic Service (VTS) channel, which varies from location to location. I guess the theory is that if there are distress signals that the vessel needs to respond to, they'll be routed to the VTS channel by the Coast Guard.
Either way, it sounds like Zuck's crew wasn't maintaining the required radio watch.
If they were monitoring the Coast Guard VTS channel and the boat that came to help was monitoring channel 16, the latter could easily have arrived before the Coast Guard forwarded the request to the VTS channel.
So I would say it is at least somewhat plausible, but only if his yacht falls into that larger vessel category.
So... I dug some more.
Yes, his vessels (both of them, the yacht and its tender) fall into the large vessel category but Frederick Sound has no VTS, so both were legally obligated to be listening on channel 13 and channel 16. And large vessels aren't allowed to use one dual-channel radio like small vessels do (mine does!); they have to have two separate radios monitored by two separate people. This isn't because dual-channel radios are unreliable, but because they don't want the crewman who's using one radio to communicate to miss messages on the other channel due to task loading. It's about keeping the two crewmen unencumbered enough to effectively monitor both.
I've never learned much about radio requirements of large vessels, so this was interesting
And the BS about being on a different channel. You are expected monitor VHF channel 16.
Large vessels aren't required to monitor 16, at least when in an area with an active Vessel Traffic Service (VTS) operation.. They are required to monitor 13 (the bridge-to-bridge channel) and the VTS channel (the frequency varies; it's never channel 16). But if the Coast Guard was calling them they'd be calling on the VTS channel, which Zuck's crew should have been monitoring.
So, you're right in substance, just not about the particular channel.
At least in the UK, when you're operating a boat with a VHF radio, it's a requirement to leave it on channel 16 when not actively using it. Is that true in the US?
Whether it's legally required depends on the type of vessel. "Voluntary" vessels, such as small recreational vessels, are not required to have a VHF radio at all. Those that have one are required to maintain a watch on channel 16 when they're not using the radio to communicate. In practice, most radios today have dual or triple-channel monitoring, so you can keep monitoring even if you've switched to a different channel to talk.
I had to look up the rules for larger "mandatory" vessels... and the result surprised me. Large vessels are required to have VHF radios and maintain a watch, but not on channel 16! They're required to maintain a watch on two channels, the bridge-to-bridge channel, 13, and the Vessel Traffic Service (VTS) channel, which varies from location to location. I guess the theory is that if there are distress signals that the vessel needs to respond to, they'll be routed to the VTS channel by the Coast Guard.
Either way, it sounds like Zuck's crew wasn't maintaining the required radio watch.
Ad Hominem does exist, but suggesting or outright saying that someone is too stupid to understand an argument is not ad hominem.
To review, I stated his link did not actually say what he claims it says. His response was not clarification of his claim but to claim I was too stupid/young to read.
You want to quibble that it was an ad hominem attack, go ahead.
But it does mean nobody is required to help. And the Coast Guard determined in real time, talking to the boat, that it was a request for assistance, not a distress call.
No, that's not what that means. It means that vessels in the area are not required to drop everything and rush immediately to the vessel. It means assist if they can.
Both terms have a specific legal meaning. One requires assistance, the other does not.
If they can means "if they can."
Zuklerburg wasn't on board at the time, and really doesn't know much more than what his captain told him. The captain's excuses do seem flimsy, and Zuck himself is a disgusting slime mold, but no laws were broken. Get over it.
Seeing how there has not been any investigation, it is extremely early to say that "no laws were broken."
"Not been confirmed by us independently."
Bahahahahahaha. So your answer to your lie that there "was not a distress call" is to ask other to disprove your claims.
And the claim that the yacht refused to help was, at best, third hand.
The yacht DID NOT help. That was the refusal.
Pretty much ever story on it, with quotes from Coast Guard reps. So, it's a dozen or more news articles quoting Coast Guard sources by name vs "some nameless person who claimed to be onboard the ship that ran out of gas, and claimed that the captain said. .
So you refuse to post links validating what you claim then?
If you'd spend five seconds at a search engine, you'd know all that.
So your answer to you having the facts wrong which you won't support is to claim I did not search. How do you know how much I researched? You don't.
But facts don't support your masturbatory hatred of rich people, with rich people being anybody who makes more money that you do flipping burgers.
Ad hominem attack. Your answer is to attack other people who challenge you. Got it.
you have literally no idea whether it could have or not.,
The superyacht passed by the vessel in distress. The superyacht had no mechanical issues. Thus it could have helped.
jesus fucking christ get off your high horse, i get it we hate Zuck but he literally wasnt even involved. the captain of the ship made its decision whether they could assist or not.
I never said one thing about Zuckerbug. You on the other hand seem ready to defend him at all costs.
the captain of the ship made its decision whether they could assist or not. get over it. no one died. nothing happened. everything is fine.
Captains. Zuckerburg owned two vessels in the area. Neither of them assisted. These are facts. They seem inconvenient to you that both Zuckerburg ships did nothing.
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