Bad sentiment, seriously? Trump directly and voluntarily damaged our economies (with tariffs). Trump threatened our national security, more than once! Trump denied us needed help for our friend Ukraine!
So? I think what Trump is doing is embarrassing, dangerous and counterproductive yet unless he starts invading Greenland or Canada or sells F-35s to Russia or some truly crazy shit nothing substantive is going to change because the existing architecture serves everyone's interests. FFS Europeans are still sending cash to America to buy military equipment not at a discount but at a healthy war profiteers markup. There is a lot of noise but nothing as of yet has fundamentally changed.
1. Would Trump invoke NATO Article 5? Really, with his ego? Then would anyone trust him with help right now? Or is he going to impose 200% more tariffs (like he threatened Spain two weeks ago) if he doesn't get exactly the amounts of troops he wants, or the amount of money he demands, or whatever goes through his mind that morning?
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Did you mean to ask would Trump respond in good faith to an invocation of Article 5 by European allies? I'm not sure. He is an amoral shitbag. I wouldn't count on it. Even if there was someone sane in the white house if shit really hit the fan it was never a certainty the alliance would deliver due to selfish balancing of interests. Article 5 makes no affirmative demands of any country... it is all voluntary.
The question of would he invoke it, given all the whining about expecting NATO to come to his aid and help clean up his mess in Iran my guess is he would try.
2. Can you provide any reason why we would actually risk our lives for a war we didn't choose, we were not even be INFORMED OF a minute in advance? I don't see any benefit for any to enter this mess.
When I said shit hits the fan I'm not speaking of the US-Iran war. It would be something crazy like NK lobbing nukes, attacks from China, meat waves from Russia...etc.
If I were a head of state of any European country unless Iran attacked me or my allies I sure as fuck wouldn't enter the war with Iran at this point.
3. We (non-USA part of the world) are at PEACE with Iran right now. Why would we want to become their target?
My best guess you've misinterpreted my remarks.
4. USA is constantly playing Big Boy. What sort of help does Goliath needs against David?
No idea of the relevance of "Big Boy".
4.1 Do you really think European countries will send troops in Iran? We have democracies, we typically have 4+ political parties in a constantly moving equilibrum. If governments do stupid things like this, they fall in a month, someone else becomes the leader and most likely backtracks.
You've already asked this question and I answered it above. I never said shit about anyone sending troops to Iran.
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4.2 or do you want European troops to help secure Washington DC while you're busy in Tehran?
Iran had nothing to do with my previous "shit hits the fan" statement.
I do think when there is a common threat and countries with aligned interests don't work together to address it then they can all expect outcomes that serves nobodies interest. The stream of noise and annoyances coming out of the white house does not alter the basic structure of alliances and interests.
4.3 Would you actually have use for a European aicraft carrier, when the USA has 11 in operation, and whole Europe has TWO? (And both are 2.5 times smaller than the American counterparts?) Trump has been constantly belittling European armies. Do you expect Europe to go all-in with... so little investment in defence... as Trump painted it?
This is like saying you made fun of me and that other guy over there is shooting at me so no because you belittled me I don't want you to help me and I won't help you when they shoot at you. Have some perspective. I get people are royally annoyed and pissed off by the demented clown in the white house.
(2) the war expands when Russia (Iran's ally) attacks Europe as retaliation, or seeing an opportunity. That still won't make Europeans enter the Iran war. To the contrary that will make Europe withdraw from wherever else and defend itself.
There is a reasonable chance Putin would attempt if he could to wage endless wars of conquest in a bid to reconstitute the USSR. Iran doesn't even enter into that picture except as an enabler of Russian aggression.
If you think every country for themselves will work against Russia as it slowly annexes neighboring countries and mobilizes their populations to fuel future war efforts... god bless you good luck with that you are going to need it. You are not being attacked (right now) go back to sleep.