The article summary states: the factory is for iTags, and not for iPhones.
Reading comprehension problem?
Economic Development and Local Investment is Local Investment.
Compromise makes the World Go 'Round.
Why are you sure of that? Is there any claim that apple had any assurances? My guess is that Apple never had any plans to comply and were going to build this totally unrelated factory in Indonesia anyway. Just using it to make a quick shot and complaining to the media to see if they can make a couple extra bucks.
I know Indonesia is doing that; but what about Apple?
Maybe Apple should have read the law before doing that if that was the reason they paid the law. What you are saying is like trying to get out of 50k in income tax by saying you donated 10k to trump... like that's not how that works.
I am certain that Apple Proposed their "In Kind" Compromise to the Authorities snd had Assurances. They're not exactly Newbies at the Global Logistics Game, ya know.
Then the Indonesians decided to Unilaterally Alter the Deal; figuring Apple wouldn't "walk" after they had committed a Billion Dollars snd a couple of years building that AirTag Facility.
Apple just made the mistake of assuming Indonesia was Negotiating in Good Faith; rather than just paying the Graft, like their less-Honorable Competitors obviously have.
It's based on total value (so materials + labor + assembly + software), so I guess Apple could do it. Like with the EU 'malicious compliance' that apple tried to do, that would of course last very briefly as authorities will haplily change the rules if a company makes a mockery of them, and courts tend to be very harsh on companies trying to be in contempt of the laws.
It's like you claiming some random stone in your possession was worth 3 million but you lost it so you wrote it off. That might theoretically work but when you get audited the authorities will annihilate you.
Apple built a fucking $1 Billion Facility there (bringing economic value to Indonesia), demonstrating a good faith effort at Compromise.
So exactly who is making a mockery of who?!?
Looking at this rationally, if you let one country, no matter how big, demand that a high percentage of components be made in that country, other countries will follow suit, and before long, you'll end up manufacturing your product in 195 different countries with 195 different bills of materials, economies of scale will fall apart, and phones will cost $10,000 each. That's not a reasonable outcome, and anything that moves the technology industry even one step down that slippery slope is highly undesirable.
Exactly THIS!
This is Nothing but a bald-faced Shakedown. And once started, other Countries are sure to Pile-On. Plus, the "Requirements" will quickly ratchet-up until it will be utterly non-viable.
This must stop NOW!!!
Apple needs to Abandon their AirTag Facility after stripping it bare, then filling every single pipe with Concrete; then stop selling iPhones in Indonesia.
Better a $1 Billion Bloody Nose now, than to allow this sort of economic Thuggery!
reminds me of Ambisonics: ahref=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambisonics/rel=url2html-25393https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...>
(a multi-channel format free of patents, with some issues/lack of support)
And with excellent software decoding available, Stereo Lab.
It is an interesting Surround format:
I don't anymore !! I use Numbers and it as good as Excel which was the main thing I used out of Office !
I use Numbers, too.
Haven't done much with Pages, and nothing with Keynote.
I'm sure that adding a third competing spacial audio platform along with Atmos and DTS-X isn't going to help adoption.
Exactly my first thought, too.
It's shaping-up to be Quadrophonic all over again. . .
My main computer is a Mac. I had MS Office and they had an update that screwed that up # one point.
What macOS-compatible Office Suite do you use now?
At least we can now stop hearing from iFanboys about how Apple respects their privacy, fucking softbrains.
Show me an outgoing packet sniffer log showing unexplained outgoing traffic from an Apple device that was ostensibly "just sitting there", and I'll be inclined to consider it. Bonus points if it is targeting an Apple IP!
But, AFAICT, no one has come forth with anything but anecdotes for a fucking DECADE! So, please excuse my skepticism. . .
What a load of lies. It will never end.
Prove it.
The Plaintiffs sure didn't. Not one single bit of Direct Evidence. Not one.
Where are the Packet Sniffer logs showing unexplained Outbound Traffic from Apple Devices, from when the Device was ostensibly "just sitting there"?
Thought so.
The punishment should fit the crime.
The crime here is that they spied on users while telling users specifically that they werent spying on them.
This crime has nothing to do with how much they sold the data for. Its as if its ok then if they didnt sell the data,, three times zero is zero
The fine should have been crushing. Full stop.
Problem is... PROOF.
There is none. Nothing but anecdotes. Years later, and not one Wireshark or other Packet-Sniffer log of stuff being sent ANYWHERE when an Apple Device is supposedly "just sitting there".
If the Complainants had that, it would have been the subject of Articles LONG ago.
But it hasn't. Not even once.
Telling.
https://gizmodo.com/your-phone...
https://arstechnica.com/gadget...
Yeah, turns out these articles were wrong and Apple was having you gaslight everyone.
But here's the problem: PROOF that Apple is doing this. So far, all we see is Anecdotes. TFS even states that no actual PROOF exists.
And as I have said many times: SOMEBODY would have caught their iPhone streaming data to SOME IP when the phone was supposedly "just sitting there"; but they have not. After 10 years of this BULLSHIT, all we have are Anecdotes. Your cited Ars Technica Article points this glaring evidentiary insufficiency out quite succinctly, to wit:
Before Cox Media Group sent its statement, though, CMG's claims of collecting data on "casual conversations in real-time," as its blog stated, were questionable. CMG never explained how our devices would somehow be able to garner the computing and networking power necessary to record and send every conversation spoken within the device's range in "real-time," unbeknownst to the device's owner. The firm also never explained how it acquired the type of access that requires law enforcement to obtain a warrant. This is despite CMG's blog claiming that with Active Listening, advertisers would be able to know "the second someone in your area is concerned about mold in their closet," for example."
If the Class had any Direct Evidence of Apple doing this, they would have offered it; but all they have is speculation and anecdotes.
And Apple's Deep Pockets. . .
Yes iOS does that. Iâ(TM)ve said some things that triggered Siri to start listening that were vaguely similar sounding. âoeHi Sammyâ to my son, âoecome here Dashyâ to my dog, Dash, etc. nothing evil imho but a bit brain dead.
Remember, Apple isn't using the powerful voice recognition of its Servers to listen for the "Hey Siri" Trigger Phrase. Instead, it uses a tiny, ultra-low-power subprocessor so that it can listen-for the Trigger Phrase On-Device. So naturally, it occasionally gets it wrong.
No great Conspiracy; just the limits of current technology.
Sure they are, apple is such a caring, giving corporation.
Go fuck yourself, Sockpuppet.
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