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Comment Re:Consider random mutations (Re:Hail Trump!) (Score 1) 56

BTW, re: the Congo in particular: the most common traditional type of fishing is basket fishing with woven funnels suspended in the rapids. You sure as hell better know how to swim if you want to do that.

Famous angler Jeremy Wade referred to the local Congo fishermen as nearly suicidal, just diving into the rapids to get nets unstuck and the like.

Comment Re:Consider random mutations (Re:Hail Trump!) (Score 2, Informative) 56

SIGH.

There were 10 people chosen and people with dark skin in the USA make up about 1 out of 8 Americans.

1 in 8 is 12,5%.

African-American without mixed race in 2024 is estimated at 46,3M, or 14,2%
With mixed race, that rises to 51,6M, or 15,8% of the population.
Some hispanics have dark skin, some light. In 2023 there were 62,5%, representing 19% of the population (though there's a small overlap with black - doesn't affect the numbers much).
In 2023, Asians were 25,8M people, or 7,7% of the population. This is again a diverse group with mixed skin tones (for example, the Indian subcontinent)
In 2023, there were 1,6M people (0,49%) of pacific island ancestry and 3,3M native Americans - again, mixed skin tones.
People of Mediterranean European ancestry often have so-called "olive" complexions.

With a strict definition of dark skin, you're probably talking like 1 in 6 or so (~16,7%). With a looser definition, you could be talking upwards of 40% or more of the population.

The chances of the 10 people to be a perfect representation of the racial demographics of the USA is quite small.

Here are the actual odds of selecting no dark-skinned people at different population percentages being "dark skinned", by one's definition of "dark":

15%: 1 in 4
20%: 1 in 8
25%: 1 in 17
30%: 1 in 34
35%: 1 in 73
40%: 1 in 165

Then consider that NASA astronauts are required to pass a swimming test

It is not a test of swimming prowess, just of an ability to not drown. You have to be able to do three lengths of a 25-meter pool without stopping, three lengths of the pool in a flight suit and tennis shoes, and tread water for 10 minutes while wearing a flight suit. This is not some massively imposing task. You don't have to be Michael Phelps to become an astronaut.

and as a general rule those with African ancestry tend to have less stamina in swimming than those with lighter skin

Yes, white athletes tend to have an advantage in swimming. A 1,5% advantage. While a 1,5% advantage may be of good relevance at the highest level of a sport, it's hardly meaningful in a "can you tread water with a flight suit on" test.

Think of the different races as just really big families

That is not how genetics work, and is instead the pseudoscience that drove fascist movements, and in particular, Nazism.

There is far more genetic diversity within a given "race" than between them. Certain genetic traits tend to have strong correlates - for example dark skin and sickle cell anemia - but that's not because races are some sort of genetic isolates, but rather for very practical reasons (dark skin is an adaptation to not die of skin cancer in the tropics, and sickle cell disease is a consequence of a genetic adaptation to not die of malaria which also happens to be found in such climates). But the vast majority of genes don't have such strong correlates.

The concept of "race" as a distinct biological category is not supported by modern genetics.

If we are to ignore skin color and just put one big family up against another big family on swimming ability then just due to random mutations, perhaps some Darwinian selection way back in the family tree, one family will swim better than the other

The main "racial difference" in swimming ability in the US is "inherited", that is, parents who don't know how to swim tend to not teach their kids how to swim. As a result, white children are 56% more likely to receive swimming lessons than black children. One can expect that to directly correspond to an advantage in adulthood. But again, the ability to tread water is not out there knocking 90% of astronaut candidates out of the race - especially given that astronaut candidates tend to be athletic and motivated to learn new skills.

People with light skin tend to have ancestors that had to go fishing for their protein

Utter tripe. Fish consumption has no correlation with skin colour. How much fish do you think your average herder or plains horseman ate? And fish is massively important in much of Africa - in coastal areas (Gabon, Ghana, Sierra Leone in particular note), along the Congo (it's literally the world's largest river, people have been fishing it since time immemorial), Lake Victoria, Lake Chad, the Niger Delta, etc etc. What sort of racist stereotype world are you living in where black people don't fish?

Comment Global (Score 1) 120

We are a GLOBAL economy that is based on information. Call it Post Industrial. Information moves at the speed of light.

Pretending we Americans live in a giant castle surrounded by a huge Moat (aka Oceans) isn't going to protect us from what is happening elsewhere. Offshoring is going to kill our economy.

We have a dying generation who still sees the economy as post WWII, because that is the world we grew up in (Last of the boomers here).

We had better get used to it. Build things better, faster, cheaper.

Comment Re: As a proud American of Indian origin... (Score 1) 231

We tend to be centrist, and are used to a multiparty system. We also assimilate tend to assimilate well enough to do what (we think) is best for the country practically at the time, rather than be overly biased.

Case in point: I supported Obama back then. Postt Biden, I thought Trmp would be a better choice for the American economy.

Comment Damn it! (Score 1) 36

The cheese sandwich was the best part of Frye. I've literally had that same sandwich many times, and while it looks sad and basic, if you are in a position where someone is giving that to you where you didn't specifically order it, let me tell you its special and it hits like nothing else on this earth.

Comment Re: Hinduism starts with a question, not a dogma (Score 1) 153

https://www.perplexity.ai/sear...

explain in detail, Hinduism as the oldest living Dharmic tradition, with parallels to the "open source" software movement. The target auidence being a typical westener familiar only with organized proselytizing invasive Abrahamic religions such as Islam & Christianity spread by the sword. Deep Research and include detailed citations in report

explain in detail, Hinduism as the oldest living Dharmic tradition, with parallels to the "open source" software movement. The target auidence being a typical westener familiar only with organized proselytizing invasive Abrahamic religions such as Islam & Christianity spread by the sword. Deep Research and include detailed citations in report

**Hinduism is frequently recognized as the oldest living Dharmic tradition and stands apart from Abrahamic religions by emphasizing pluralism, flexibility, and decentralized spiritual practiceâ"an ethos strikingly similar to the âoeopen sourceâ software movement**[1][2][3][4][5].

## Hinduism: Oldest Living Dharmic Tradition

Hinduismâ(TM)s roots precede recorded history, tracing back over 4,000 years to the Indus Valley civilization and Vedic texts[1][2][5]. Unlike Abrahamic religionsâ"Judaism, Christianity, and Islamâ"which were founded by specific prophets, Hinduism lacks a single founder or central authority[6][3]. It is known by its adherents as *SanÄtana Dharma* (âoeeternal lawâ)â"a continuous philosophical tradition that integrates many beliefs, texts, and rituals across cultures[1][4]. Hindu teachings, preserved in a vast array of texts like the Vedas, Upanishads, and Puranas, encapsulate concepts of karma, reincarnation, dharma, and moksha[1][6][4].

## Parallel to âoeOpen Sourceâ Movement

Hinduismâ(TM)s evolution mirrors open source principles. Just as open source software welcomes collaborative modification and adaptation, Hinduism encourages personal spiritual exploration and reinterpretation[7][8][9][10]. There is no âoeone-size-fits-allâ doctrinal pathâ"diverse practices (bhakti, karma, jnana, meditation, ritual) are all accepted as valid[7][8]. Communities throughout India and beyond follow different customs, and philosophies develop organically through dialogue and debate, much like open source code forks and merges[7][8][10]. Throughout its history, Hinduism has absorbed influences from other traditions (Buddhism, Jainism, even elements of Islam and Christianity) without losing its inherent pluralism[11][7][8].

## Contrasts with Abrahamic Religions

Abrahamic religions are characterized by exclusive monotheism, defined canon, and strong institutional authorityâ"often coupled historically with organized proselytization, conversion efforts, and sometimes force (âoespread by the swordâ)[12][13][6]. Salvation hinges on faith in a specific god, following strict commandments, and aligning with fixed creeds. In contrast, **Hinduism is non-proselytizing and inclusive**, accepting atheists, polytheists, and diverse sectsâ"viewing all sincere seekersâ(TM) paths as valid[12][14][4][8]. Its complex pantheon and philosophical schools allow vibrant cross-pollination, defending spiritual freedom and individual choice above blind obedience and exclusivity[8][7][12].

## Key Insights for a Western Audience

- Hinduism thrives as **âoeopen-source spirituality,â** encouraging personal customization and growthâ"unlike religions defined by exclusive, institutional creeds[7][8][9][10].
- Its system honors **plural ways to the divine, philosophical freedom, and ongoing evolutionâ"akin to collaborative development in open source software**[7][8].
- Abrahamic faiths historically spread through evangelism and sometimes force, but Hinduism remains organic and integrative, rarely aiming to convert or replace other traditions[12][13][14].
- For seekers from structured Western backgrounds, Hinduism offers a paradigm where spiritual truth emerges from dialogue, experimentation, and respectful coexistenceâ"just as open-source software relies on community participation rather than imposition[7][8][10].

Citations:
[1] Hinduism - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
[2] Hinduism | Origin, History, Beliefs, Gods, & Facts - Britannica https://www.britannica.com/top...
[3] Religions - Hinduism: At a Glance - BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion...
[4] 5 things Dharmic faiths have in common - Hindu American Foundation https://www.hinduamerican.org/...
[5] [PDF] Origins of Hinduism https://www.edu.gov.mb.ca/k12/...
[6] Hinduism: What Do You Know About the World's Oldest Religion? https://www.smp.org/resourcece...
[7] The World's First Open-Source LLM: Hinduism - The àà¾àà¾àà of URVA https://www.urva.site/p/world-...
[8] Open-source Hinduism - Irénées - Irenees.net https://www.irenees.net/bdf_fi...
[9] The God Project: Hinduism as Open-Source Faith | HuffPost Religion https://www.huffpost.com/entry...
[10] The God Project: Hinduism as Open-Source Faithâ"by Josh Schrei https://savitri.in/blogs/light...
[11] History of Hinduism - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
[12] Hinduism vs. Abrahamic Religions: Why Are They So Different? https://timeslife.com/life-hac...
[13] Why do Abrahamic Religion dislike Hinduism? - Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/hindu...
[14] "Abrahamizing" Hinduism (NOT about Conversion) https://www.ihsanishan.com/ihs...
[15] Hinduism is akin to Open Source, while Abrahamic faiths are closed ... https://www.reddit.com/r/hindu...
[16] 12.4 Hinduism and Abrahamic religions: Interactions and dialogues https://library.fiveable.me/in...
[17] Is Hinduism actually the oldest religion in the world? - Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/relig...
[18] FOSS is Necessary but Not Sufficient: Lessons from the History and ... https://www.digitalfutureslab....
[19] Neo-Vedanta - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
[20] Hindutva - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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