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Comment Re:If they're cutting jobs... (Score 0) 17

That was a failure, but the first failure was not recognizing it wasn't ready for a research project either. When they realized it was going to have to be heavy and bulky, they should have stopped and either iterated the design again, or smarter IMO, waited for tech to improve (or push it) and then done another design. OTOH Apple can afford to lose the money...

Comment Re: And they have a really important supporter (Score 1) 88

What code they are based on is irrelevant. Slashdot still has a very simple interface (I am using it right now, it is still the best interface) which is easy for bots to interface to using the DOM. Whether it's Perl or C# or Ada underneath makes no difference.

The real question, therefore, is why are we still being subjected to this cowardly anonymous bullcrap? This management has turned off AC posting before, and you could say they turned it back on only because post counts tanked, but have you seen post counts recently? It's now horribly rare to break 100.

Slashdot needs a major overhaul, and I don't mean of the code though that will of course have to change. I mean specifically that mod abuse and AC trolling are driving away every serious poster. My thanks to those of you who still remain, but most of you post less and less, not that I blame you. I presume you're here less, too.

Comment Re:Shocked! (Score 3, Interesting) 47

That is not what they found. What they found is that if you spend 60 minutes doing the homework with AI, you learn approximately as much as someone who spends 60 minutes doing it without AI. If you spend 20 minutes doing it with AI, you learn as much as someone who spends 20 minutes doing it without AI. Etc. The only real difference is that the AI people get way better homework scores, and as a result, tend to stop spending as much time, and thus tend to learn less.

That's what this preprint study found.

Comment Re:Get rid of homework (Score 1) 47

100% this. Even a short 5-minute quiz with just a couple questions at the start of each day will do the trick. But you simply can't rely on homework scores to be a proxy of learning or time spent studying anymore. Brief daily quizzes on the previous day's material will force them to.

Also, It's not like students have the excuse of, "I couldn't study, I didn't have anyone to explain X to me" anymore. The very AI that they might otherwise use to cheat on their homework can also explain to them the things they missed in last year's algebra class that are blocking them from learning this year's calculus, or whatnot. Congrats - you now have an infinitely patient personal tutor who will spend hours dumbing things down for you until you get it. Now you have no excuse - learn the material. It becomes all about actually putting the time in.

Comment Re:Shocked! (Score 2) 47

Yeah. There's been widespread misrepresentation of this (preprint!) in the media. What they actually found: test scores correspond to how much time you spend doing homework, regardless of whether you use AI or not. Which should not be a surprising result! Of course, the AI people, esp. those who had been using AI for more than a few months, stopped spending much time on their homework, and then their test scores fell to match the non-AI users who didn't spend much time in their homework either.

The TL/DR is, in today's age, you cannot use test scores as a proxy of how much time a user is studying or knows the material.

There are of course some caveats, beyond the fact that it's just a preprint - notably that there's nothing to separate why the user started using AI to do their homework, so there's potential confounders in there. For example, if a student is in a poor family, maybe they had to get a job to help pay the bills. But working a job itself can lower test scores - for example, having to work late the night before an exam. So there are some confounder problems with the study. That said, I'm sure the general conclusion is correct: time spent doing the thing = amount of learning the thing (relatively independent of what tools you're using in the process).

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