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Submission + - Teachers' Union Urges Schools to Curb AI Chatbots and Screen Time

theodp writes: The New York Times reports the $22.5 million AI partnership to 'bring AI into the classroom' struck last July between the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) union, Microsoft, and OpenAI has hit a bump in the road as the AFT urges schools to curb AI chatbots and screen time, recommending 'no screens' at all for those in second grade or younger, and no AI chatbots for students in elementary school.

The union’s effort reflects a backlash among parents and educators against heavy use of school-issued laptops and apps. Some parents and nonprofit children’s groups are also pushing back against campaigns by tech giants like Google and OpenAI to spread their AI products in schools.

This week, AFT president Randi Weingarten said that the union was negotiating safety and privacy standards for AI use in schools with 'our partners in the AI academy,' and that Microsoft, OpenAI and Anthropic had agreed in principle to those standards. “We’re being transparent,” Weingarten said, adding that "We’re willing to walk away from the funding that we receive here if we don’t get the safety and privacy."

Comment Re: Why do we need a giant publicly funded moon ba (Score 3, Informative) 52

IIRC Kennedy originally wanted to do something spectacular to show the world how advanced the US was, and things like desalinating water were considered. But he also wanted to improve relations with the USSR, and when he proposed going to the moon he then started putting forward the idea of a joint mission.

It was still in the early stages when he was assassinated, so the mission profile hadn't been decided upon and most people were expecting there to be a moon orbit rendezvous between a crew capsule and lander launched separately. So the thought was that the US and USSR could send their own crew capsules, and then both board a joint lander, and go down together. Presumably they would have had to figure out how to have an astronaut and cosmonaut step onto the surface at the same time.

So it was a dick measuring contest, but there was also the possibility of it fostering cooperation. Shame it didn't happen until Apollo/Soyuz.

Comment Re:local private tools are good (Score 0) 58

I hate to defend the UK, and there have been some serious mistakes made, but nobody is in jail for hate speech. It's always something like harassment or credible threats. In fact, a recent case demonstrated that even criminal damage, throwing someone's phone on the ground, isn't a crime anymore, unless there is very strong evidence that it was damaged by that specific action. That incident was preceded by months of harassment too, and the guy got away with it.

Comment Re:adblock and privacy badger (Score 1) 106

That's how it works.

The browser has two filesystem APIs. The older one just lets it display a file chooser, and then the browser gives it access to that one file that the user picked, sandboxed, and nothing else. Any writes are cached until all security checks are passed, and then the browser copies the data out of the sandbox.

The problem with that is performance. So there is a second API which creates an isolated, sandboxed, quota enforced filesystem just for that one website. The quota counts for everything the site stores, including cookies and other stuff. It gets cleared when th user clears site data, e.g. automatically on closing the browser. The benefit is performance for cached data.

I know you hate it, but a lot of people use web apps. Office apps, CAD apps, games, IDEs, all sorts of things. I'm sure one of the reasons why Linux has been able to make gains lately is because so many popular apps only require a web browser now, not a compatible OS.

Comment Re:Can someone help explain "perfect" randomness? (Score 2) 138

It's not that. Junction noise is believed to be truly random, governed by quantum physics, and impossible to predict.

The question is, can you prove it? That's what they have done here - created a system that is provably random, not just strongly suspected to be by our current understanding of quantum physics, and a review of the measurement hardware.

Comment Re:Wow, Random ! (Score 1) 138

The same claims have been made about lotteries that use physical balls. They wear out, the machines are unbalanced, the painted on numbers make some heavier than others... None of it has ever been proven AFAIK. If there is some bias, it's too small to matter on the scale these things are used for.

An example of where it does matter and has been previously exploited is card deck shuffling. Particularly online or other "virtual" card decks that only exist in the computer's memory. You might think that simply swapping every card with another random one would guarantee a well shuffled deck, but it turns out to quite a difficult problem to solve.

Comment Re: Pinball machines are still made (Score 1) 51

Other related terms:

  * Pseudo-quotation: Putting a paraphrase or the general "gist" of someone’s argument inside quotation marks, rather than their literal verbatim words. Acts structurally like a quote, but semantically is a summary.
  * 'Fictive Direct Speech (Esther Pascual): The structure of direct speech used to express a non-conversational concept, such as a belief, attitude, or general stance.
  * Constructed Dialogue (Deborah Tannen): Used for "reported speech" - when people "quote" others in conversation, they are rarely reciting a literal transcript. Instead, they construct dialogue to dramatize a stance, represent a general attitude, or summarize a complex argument in a digestible way.

Sneer quotes (also called scare quotes) are similar, in that they summarize a person's stance, but have the distinction of also being dismissive of the person / stance as well.

Comment Re: Pinball machines are still made (Score 1) 51

That's not what "sneer quotes" do.

(And the quotes in the above are neither direct quotation nor sneer quotes, but use-mention distinction quotes, which let the sentence "know" that the thing in the quotes is the word/phrase itself, not what it refers to)

(And the quotes in the above are signaling quotes, to convey that a word is being used in an unconventional manner; it's a "clever" way to distance yourself from the word)

(And the quotes in the above are irony quotes....)

Comment Re:Delta Queen (Score 1) 51

Yeah, I've been using canisters, and they're expensive and a chore (and because of that, it encourages me to give the plants much less than would be ideal).

The basic process is potassium carbonate/bicarbonate swing absorption. Potassium carbonate absorbs CO2 (and H2O) from the air at low temperatures , forming bicarbonate, but the bicarbonate emits CO2 (and H2O) at high temperatures. So the system has two modes: one, a powerful radial blower blows air through a pumice bed packed with potassium carbonate so that it absorbs CO2 (more specifically, it first absorbs H2O, and then CO2); and in the other, the fan is shut off and a PTC heater turns on to heat the pumice bed.

I'm trying to make the whole system as passive as possible. Since the fan is so powerful (you have to move a LOT of air to capture CO2), it's designed to blow dampers shut or open that control its path, while a different path opens up when the fan is not on. The PTC heater being on will automatically force the fan off. I've also set up (cross my fingers whether it works...) a weight-based system to control fan/heater switching. The core is PPS-CF (super heat tolerant) and mounted on springs, so it should move downward as it absorbs more moisture and CO2, and when it's full, it should force the fan off (even if my greenhouse controller hasn't requested CO2, aka triggered the PTC heater). And when the PTC heater is on, it rises from losing H2O and CO2 mass, and if it rises too much, that triggers a switch to force the fan off.

I'm also perhaps overcomplicating it and making a rod for my own back, in that I've designed it so that both modes have the air travel through a system of (also 3d printed) heat exchangers (in general, heat exchangers working with air have no issue with being made of plastic, because the heat flow from the air to the wall is slower than heat transfer across the wall). So these are big and made of multiple parts, in order to not slow down the airflow from the blower too much. But the idea is that the CO2+H2O flowing outwards cools and deposits H2O in the exchanger (then a secondary heat exchanger re-heats it to drive the convection force), while in capture mode, the incoming air can use that H2O instead of having to rely just on atmospheric H2O (which is viable, but does impose a capture delay). And of course, it helps maintain a warmer temperature inside the core on very cold days that might slow down the reaction (it's designed to be able to be mounted outside; the bulk of it will be printed in ASA).

Right now I'm in that annoying phase of prototyping where you print chunks of parts out, see if they actually print right ("whoops, there are supports in this area, but I CAN'T REACH THAT!"), actually fit together right (for example, dampers not jamming in their paths), the non-printed parts actually fit (I keep screwing up the mount for the blower, lol), that sort of stuff.

Dunno, but it's a fun project, and hopefully it will work :) Then the question for me (if it actually works well) will be, just release the plans open source, or actually manufacture them (and if so, continue 3d printing, or switch to injection moulding - though that would take redesign!). Because I've not found anything else like it on the market. There are some greenhouse CO2 capture systems out there, but they're gigantic and super-expensive, with even the monthly service contracts being in the hundreds of dollars. This - because it relies on the super stable potassium carbonate/bicarbonate swing absorption cycle (even though it's not the most efficient) - should last basically forever with minimal maintenance (though it is designed for maintenance - for example, I've designed it so that the switch set points that determine when the core is fully saturated vs. fully unsaturated, can be adjusted with a screwdriver)

Comment Re: Pinball machines are still made (Score 1) 51

I don't plan to link anything with my name to you, so you can believe whatever you want, though if you'd like I'll 3d print something with your name on it, with horizontal holes, in PETG and post it online for you. And yes, I have a BA in Horticulture (subfield: greenhouse cultivation) from Fjölbrautaskóli Su[th]urlands (originally Landbúna[th]arháskólinn, in Hveragerði), along with a BS in CS - again, I don't plan to link anything with my name on it, so you're free to believe whatever you want, if it shocks you that people have more than one field. Just like you're free to believe whatever nonsense you want about forests.

https://carbonneutral.com.au/carbon-jargon-how-trees-capture-and-store-carbon/

Age also has an influence when thinking about collective communities of trees rather than individuals. Younger forests typically grow faster and absorb more carbon overall because trees can be crowded together when they’re small.

When forests consist of middle-aged trees, they also capture and store relatively high amounts of carbon, because middle-aged trees sequester more carbon than younger trees, and if any trees die, they are replaced by younger trees that grow more quickly.

Old-growth forests have a less fluctuating carbon cycle. There are usually fewer trees in an old-growth forest, and the large old trees dominate by blocking out light for younger trees.

https://www.stateforesters.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/NCASI22_Forest_Carbon_YoungVsOld_print.pdf

Forests of different ages play different roles in removing carbon from the atmosphere and storing it in wood. Old forests
have accumulated more carbon than younger forests; however, young forests grow rapidly, removing much more CO2
each year from the atmosphere than an older forest covering the same area. Managing forests to avoid large emissions
from the loss of old trees while rapidly removing CO2 from the atmosphere through young forest growth can provide both
storage and sequestration benefi ts

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/forests-and-global-change/articles/10.3389/ffgc.2025.1702442/full

During the initial years of stand development, either after a new establishment or a stand from regeneration after disturbance, the losses due to RA (autotrophic root respiration) and RH (soil organic matter decomposition) exceed the carbon sequestration resulting in forest ecosystems typically functioning as net carbon emission sources. The duration of this phase varies based on growth rates, site conditions, climate variables, and post-disturbance effects. Rapidly growing forests then transition to carbon sinks within approximately 10-20 years as increasing leaf area and biomass accumulation enhance carbon uptake and eventually surpasses carbon losses from respiration and decomposition. NEP reaches its maximum at an intermediate stand age, after which age-related declines in net primary production (NPP) occur due to reduced nutrient availability, increased mortality (Ryan, 1991; Hartmann and Trumbore, 2016), changes in stomatal conductance, and decreases in photosynthetic efficiency, which shift the balance between carbon uptake and respiratory losses (Bond-Lamberty et al., 2004; Gower et al., 1996; Tang et al., 2014), so that old-growth forests frequently function as a minor carbon sink, or remain carbon neutral, or even become a net emissions source, depending on various factors such as climate, disturbance history, and species composition (Chang et al., 2020; He et al., 2012).

The traditional view is that old-growth forests are roughly carbon neutral - that new growth happens roughly at the same rate as decay. This is not entirely accurate (esp. e.g. in boggy areas or other long-term-accumulation-prone habitats), but by and large, yes, old-growth forests are primarily neutral. Carbon-bearing matter grows, dies, and decays. Certain types of compounds decay faster than others - for example, lignin is humus-forming, and humus is very decay resistant, but is not immune to decay, and is lost over time from the soil. It requires anoxia or mineral binding to protect over geological timeframes. In general, the rates of this, if present at all, are orders of magnitude lower than than the influxes from photosynthesis and loss to decay.

To be clear, this is not that individual trees store less carbon as they age - just the opposite, rates continue to grow as a trees get older. But every tree is fated to die, and when it does, it overwhelmingly rots. Mature forests are in balance. It is forests that are not in balance - e.g. young forests, say 20-40 years old - that are massive at net removing CO2 from the atmosphere, because growth is fast but decay is slow (because not much has yet died).

TL/DR:
* Clearcut forest: terrible emission source. Lots of decay going on / soil carbon loss, even if immediately replanted. Takes a decade or more to go back to net sequestration
* Young growing forest: peaking at 20-40 years, massively net sequestering. Lots of new growth, comparatively little decay.
* Old growth forest: roughly in balance between growth and decay. Stores lots of carbon, but does not net sequester much, if any, carbon.

I hope that helps.

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