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Comment Re: Buckle up (Score 1) 838

You said the virus was generated in a lab.

Whatever. I meant it escaped from a lab. That's where it was, that's where it was being studied. The point of the article was to prove the APPEAL TO AUTHORITY crap that you're still relying on was 100% wrong. This is what you refuse to acknowledge. THAT is your straw-man, which was NOT in the article. Okay, yes, I misstated. Not "generated", but existed, likely mutated, studied, and escaped from the lab. But you can't even acknowledge that.

My point, which you are pretending to not understand, is that the exalted "health care professionals and scientists" that you are even now claiming to be infallible were completely wrong about the origins of the virus, when they were claiming it originated from the wet markets. That's was wrong. Admit it.

Sorry, stating a fact and then quoting from your own source is not a strawman argument. Your source is absolutely about pre-existing T-cell reactivity and its effect on the virus and herd immunity. The most salient fact from your article is the one I quoted, and the one you refuse to acknowledge. You can whine about Fauci all you want, but your own source says the science is not yet settled.

HAHAHAHA! No, it's not. Not even close.

Sure, they are trying to EXPLAIN the low HIT of COVID-19 using the T-cell theory that similar viruses confer immunity. It might or might not be the proven. But they do not question that the evidence shows that HIT of COVID-19 is low, possibly lower than the 22% that Fauci claims can't establish herd immunity Scientists who understand that's the case are many. Fauci is wrong.

I posted a couple of other references to demonstrate that, which you ignored, because you're refusing to acknowledge that you're wrong.

And YOU are misrepresenting what I said. I didn't say anything about T-cells or anything: it's you changing the subject and creating strawmen. The point was about the HIT of COVID-19, and the latest science says Fauci is wrong, wrong, wrong

And so are you.

You're just a science denier. No lie.

Comment Re: Buckle up (Score 0) 838

You're creating a bunch of straw-men, and intentionally misreading the sources.

Another fact is that SARS-CoV-2 is not human-made.

Meaning it was not genetically manipulated. BUT it was studied in a lab, mutated there, learned to adjust to human hosts, and then escaped.

Have you got a different source that says the virus was created in a lab? The one you provided clearly says otherwise.

Just a straw man. It was not man-made, but it likely DID escape from the Wuhan lab:

"Also recalled that samples (blood and thymus tissues) from the miners were sent to the Wuhan Institute of Virology for research purposes. As their labs were under construction at the time of sample collection, virologists may have begun experimentations in 2017 or 2018, Dr. Latham and Prof. Wilson said. Then the virus may have leaked from the lab by accident."

That article is about pre-existing T-cells reactive with the virus. It says:

Straw man, again. It's clear from the evidence shown that transmissible is far below what is expected from the standard models, the one Fauci seems to think is unassailable fact, but doesn't work with COVID-19. One theory is pre-existing T-cells, but none are confirmed.

Why did you not address the salient parts of the article?

Taken together, this growing body of research documenting pre-existing immunological responses to SARS-CoV-2 may force pandemic planners to revisit some of their foundational assumptions about how to measure population susceptibility and monitor the extent of epidemic spread.

“The conventional wisdom is that lockdown occurred as the epidemic curve was rising,” Gupta explained. “So once you remove lockdown that curve should continue to rise.” But that is not happening in places like New York, London, and Stockholm. The question is why.

Sure, there are multiple theories as to why, but the fact is, it's happening.

While most experts have taken the R0 for SARS-CoV-2 (generally estimated to be between 2 and 3) and concluded that at least 50% of people need to be immune before herd immunity is reached, Gomes and colleagues calculate the threshold at 10% to 20%.

Here are a few more references showing that Fauci's reliance on the 1970's model based on the HIT=11/R0 formula is wrong for COVID-19:

Individual variation in susceptibility or exposure to SARS-CoV-2 lowers the herd immunity threshold
Why herd immunity to COVID-19 is reached much earlier than thought

Comment Re: Buckle up (Score -1) 838

Stop listening to the politicians, instead listen to the health professionals and scientists that overwhelming agree that masking is important for stopping the spread to others when in close proximity and especially indoors.

Those same "health professionals and scientists" also overwhelmingly agreed that people should NOT wear masks. That turned out to be a lie - okay, a lie to try to reserve PPE for health care professionals, but we know now they were lying about their view of masks.

They also overwhelmingly agreed that COVID-19 did not escape from a lab, and mocked the idea that it did. It turns out now, all of the evidence points to the source being a laboratory-generated virus. The story about a bat or pangolin at a Wuhan wet market has been entirely discredited.

And an awful lot of those high-profile health professionals are still ignoring the evidence that COVID-19 does not follow the same model of spread that normal respiratory viruses, and has a much-reduced herd immunity threshold due to the heterogeneity of this virus. Fauci even said "If you think herd immunity is reached at 22% I think you're alone in that." It turns out, Fauci simply isn't keeping up with the latest studied and science on the issue of transmissability and HIT of COVID-19.

Comment Re:Big deal. (Score 1) 204

The people we're talking about here are attempting to block access to polling stations

Completely false.

A county election official, Gary Scott, said that the protest was about 100 feet from the building entrance where voters cast their ballot early. Contrary to some initial reports, the protesters had not blocked access to the polling station, he said.

Comment Re:That is campaigning. (Score 1) 204

Near as I can tell, that has happened once in Virginia (according to the NYT) yesterday. It seems to have amounted to about less than 10 people (judging from the picture) imitating the Whiner-in-Chief, the alleged president, and encouraging people to vote for him. Obnoxious yes, but the officials opened other doors so that voters could avoid them.

That is called campaigning and they are definitely within the 200 foot limit. All of them are criminals. Posting as AC because Mod points.

In Virginia, the limit is 40 feet. According to the election officer, they complied with all requests from the election staff, and were not blocking the entrance. This is normal electioneering. It happens outside every polling location in every election.

Comment Re:He's not (Score -1, Troll) 310

Biden will be marginally better because he will at least get the pandemic under control using the "Pandemic Playbook" he and Obama wrote (and Trump ignored).

OMG there are people that actually buy this crap! Here's your reminder that when Moderna announced they would have results of their vaccine trials by November, Biden and Harris became suddenly vocally anti-vaxx...

Comment Re:Why would they care about illegal immigration? (Score 0, Troll) 310

Now do Joe Biden's "base"...

Oh, that's right - he doesn't really have one. He's just the influence-peddling Democratic party's answer to keeping their Wall Street constituents happy. And they're depending on their coalition of party-line voters to show up and vote AGAINST Trump. That's all they've got.

In a normal election I'd say Biden doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning more than 2 states, but Trump's a grating narcissist that can't stay off Twitter, and the entire academic establishment hates him, the "news" media is so hell-bent on getting him ousted they'll publish any bullshit story from "anonymous sources" as long as it hurts Trump, and they'll prop up Biden with the fervor of 20-something insurance clerks determined to keep from ruining their Labor Day vacation in the Hamptons. Not to mention the NeverTrumpers and establishment Republicans that see their gravy train coming to an end as the endless wars in the Middle East calm down and the funding for those money laundering schemes dries up.

Comment Re:Fun fact (Score 1) 120

If trump loses, people will riot because he is still in the white house on nov 10th. They are that dumb.

Hopefully he won't send the FBI and the security agencies on an investigation into his opponent's collusion with foreign powers, and buy a house in DC so he can oversee the progress of the investigation after the inauguration.

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