I spend almost as much time in Terminal as I do in the GUI. Sometimes more. So I am very interested in this. BTW, despite the memes, There are more of us Mac users that do that than you think.

And W11 is getting worse. That is disturbing, because Windows versions generally improved over time, not regressed.

I guess the point is that while These emergency patches may or may not point to a wider issue. That however does not mean there is no wider issue. I'm not involved with anything Oracle, so can't comment knowledgeably on that, but Microsoft and Windows? Oh hell yeah.

Imagine though, if you have a system where you have no idea what is in the software, and the number of actual thinking people is dropping to a negligible number.

There may be a tipping point where the proverbial shit hits the fan, and there is no competent person to look at it, analyze it, or fix it. What now, Saint Peter?

Sounds like Windows 11.

Topics do drift you know. Perhaps I have a different metric, but an Update that causes programs to stop working, renaming files, placing programs and files to OneDrive.

The effect is remarkable similar to a crash. And to me, a failure of Windows that I do not have with Mac or Linux

Yup I remember when i adopted my first dog from the local humane society and they chip every animal that comes through but during the adoption they explained the chip doesn't actually do anything until you pay the database company a yearly(!) fee. I ended up never doing it because that felt like the most scummy thing on earth. Maybe that's just my state but it was an unreal moment and really dashed my ideas of how these things work.

It's very American that we take an idea that rally is a universal public good and declare "there's profit to be made" and effectively ruin it.

I get paying for the chip, it's a piece of hardware but the database should be maintained by your state with free access. It just doesn't make any sense otherwise.

A computer should be an appliance. I have work to do. Spending time fixing a messed up Windows machine really wrecks productivity It only takes a few minutes of my burn rate and productivity loss to far exceed the cost of having a functioning computer.

For a hobbyist, maybe. For people making money and providing a service, computer downtime is a serious problem.

Oh good to see you came in here to set the record straight. Even Microsoft is wrong. Google Windows 11 is a disaster and find out how everyone is wrong.

Here's your problem. While you focus on a monovariant, that for some reason, the only problem is drivers. What about endless reboot loops, mystery fails on updates, changing names of critical files, moving programs and or critical program files to one drive, causing program failure and/or crashes.

Blaming it on drivers, and not using enterprise level equipment just no longer works. All that is doing is blaming the user, the old concept of "Microsoft cannot fail, only we can fail Microsoft."

The upshot of all this is plain. Windows is fundamentally broken, regressing under Windows 11. And if all the problems are the users fault, they can migrate to an OS where they don't cause all those problems.

Is it boasting though? Not having crashes should be the expected situation. A pity it is considered a flex.

It's like boasting that your refrigerator keeps food cold. 8^)

Well, I do the same things on My Macs and Linux computers. Yet they don't crash. But the same things on Windows machines do. I fear our friends logic doesn't hold up on any level.

might as well post the issues here https://www.windowscentral.com... https://www.neowin.net/news/mi...

Microsoft is saying W11 is broken, while the faithful here claim it is only poorly written drivers. And the anger is so intense that Microsoft disabled comments on social media. Here, they blame the users.

And the users? They've heard it all before... https://www.pcworld.com/articl....

Wut? Is this 2000 or something? I haven't had a driver issue since around 2005, and during installs, Linux just goes out and grabs drivers.

This! I get to see the hell people go through just to have a Windows 11 computer - as well as my own travails. At this point, my Windows machines get used for a few remaining tasks, then put back in the case, while I use machines that stay working.

People can try to blame it on drivers - which is only one of the failure mechanisms. People can blame it on Macs closed ecosystem which means that hardware and software are written for each other - by Apple, which means that.....get ready for it.....it works!

And then there are the weird problems, like renaming audio drivers, moving freaking programs to the cloud and removing them from the machine, as well as mystery changes that you just give up and fix it, then wait for it to happen again.

My Macs and Linux machines don't have this problem. Productivity is much better when you have almost 0 downtime.

Tried and tested slippery slope argument? On slashdot?

It is psychologically engineered to engage a human's attention. Modern web marketing is shady as hell and there really is no reason to try and defend the practices.

So how about we prohibit shady business practices. There is limited time and space in this world, so let's shutdown the garbage businesses that do us no good and leave more time and space and capital for those offering a legitimate goods and services.

I dunno about you, but My Macs get pushed pretty hard. They continue to work. My latest hasn't crashed yet. And my Windows machines on W11 can crash after an update, not particularly hard work.