To be clear, I meant the sensor suite and steering rack and support parts, not necessarily that there would be a working brain available to the general public by then. Leaning towards yes, but no guarantees.

I'll grant you that the liability issue is a giant question mark.

About the Russian propaganda targeting American citizens. God knows my country can't do anything about it anymore.

I say this because I believe there are people in Europe that think they can let Russia run roughshod over us and weaken us and that they can take over our place on the global stage.

The problem is that while the current administration is basically destroying our economic prosperity and our ability to project soft power (that means getting shit done without bombs) they are not however cutting back on all those bombs.

I think Europe might be under the mistaken impression that their nuclear weapons will prevent us from acting.

I don't think they realize just how deeply fucking crazy we are. You know how people worry about religious lunatics getting a hold of nuclear weapons? That's us and we have those nuclear weapons.

We are about to put those religious lunatics in charge of our nuclear arsenal so that we can dream of cheap eggs and maybe say the n-word in public from time to time. Usually after a few too many drinks while we're really laying into a customer service rep...

Seriously world war III is definitely on the table. The way big wars start is that multiple stupid mistakes get made and before you know it everybody's killing everyone. America is putting the stupidest of the stupid in charge.

I'm just saying that would be a good time to help diffuse the situation.

Is that Trump fucks kids and you voted for a kid fucker.

So while it's true that Trump fucks kids it's also true that you voted for a kitty fucker. Which is weird because most people wouldn't do that. Well I mean I guess 77 million people would but half of them were stupid.

And you don't strike me as the stupid half you strike me as the willingly voting for a kid fucker half.

Richard Nixon would have been too liberal to get even the Democratic nomination today.

As of this writing is the problem with this country.

This is an overturning of 90 plus years of precedence for no particularly good reason. Is a clear violation of law. We should all be freaking the fuck out right now. The thread should have at least 500 comments on it.

The problem is I don't think people understand how bad this is. And that's how Trump got to be president twice. People do not understand the systems that protect them let alone that those systems have completely broken down

Best guess is that in five years we still won't have level 5 autonomy you can trust. I don't mind being wrong, but I don't think I will be. I certainly don't think it's viable for that kind of money and also achieving the kind of safety I think we should be demanding. Not just "better than human" but essentially infallible. The car can have sensors we don't have, it should be able to be a lot better.

I think 20k is an optimistic price point, especially if you're hoping that it's going to deflect liability.

From what little recent data is available, the COVID19 variants circulating now are at least in the same ballpark of mortality rate as all those that have been circulating since early 2022, although data from India suggests that variants circulating this year may have mortality closer to the early-pandemic peaks:

https://ourworldindata.org/mor...

https://ourworldindata.org/cov...

Also it's significantly higher than the mortality rate of the flu, so if your vaccination choices are based on the danger of contracting the disease, that would make you a dumbass without a logical brain:

https://www.medpagetoday.com/i...

I recently read that the sales price is $105M but the lifetime maintenance cost is budgeted at $300M.

I don't know it's anything with the plane, the F35-C first launched from the land-based testing version of the electric catapult back in 2011:

http://defensetech.org/2011/11...

and has been taking off from carriers with steam catapults for over a decade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

By all means please explain what in my post I don't actually believe or adhere to.

Being harsh to assholes does not a troll make. A troll is just trying to stir up trouble.

News flash genius we already have trouble I'm just pointing it out and I'm not being nice about it.

But it looks like I hurt your precious little right-wing fee fees. What's funny is you're just aching for the day when you can shoot and kill me on a whim. Every one of you right wing son of a bitches is. It's your one and only dream to get to randomly murder somebody with that gun you bought at the gun show. And of course not go to prison for it.

You think we haven't figured out what your end game is?

Thing is violence is just more violence and sooner or later, and I mean sooner than later, you'll be on the receiving end from another right wing extremist lunatic who's just out to try out the gun they bought.

Because you're not Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson you're a pasty little weirdo. And I'm fucking tired of being nice to you fuck sticks

yeah, that's why SCOTUS was not given Judicial Review powers in the Constitution and just declared fifteen years later that it had that ultimate power "because we have to".

The Legislature is supposed to manage this nonsense. It has been in a coma since 1995.

This is just flat out illegal. This is literally not what the law says. This is a flat-out constitutional crisis people. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.

I don't have anything funny or insightful to say here just fuck.

This isn't reversing a precedent this is a fundamental breakdown in the rule of law. Barring a miracle our Republic is dead and Trump voters killed it.

I hope whatever the fuck you think you got from Trump was worth it.

There aren't any that aren't conservative, there's just moderate conservatives, far right wingnut conservatives, and the batshit loonies.

Bush v Gore was the first time that the Supremes ever included the statement that a judgement of theirs could not be used in the future to establish a precedent for any other case. Of course it was used just that way within two years.

Ah, you dewy eyed optimist . . .

I'm really afraid that this is the beginning of the end of the 250 year experiment. Oh, well, we had a pretty good run.