Virgnia:Internet Capital 180
cpt kangarooski writes "Wired is reporting that the state of Virginia plans to issue license plates bearing the motto "Internet C@pital." I suspect Network Solutions put them up to it. " Really funny article. Everyone knows that Michigan is the real c@pital anyway.
Sounds like a good poll (Score:3)
Virginia? (Score:1)
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."
Yeah, There's an RFC About It (Score:2)
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Network Working Group
Request for Comments: 8888
Category: Fake Standards Track
A. Gore
UVA/LCS
September 1999
The Commonwealth of Virginia as Internet Capital
Status of this Memo
This document specifies a Fake Internet standards track protocol for the
Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for
improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the "Internet
Official Protocol Standards" (STD 1) for the standardization state
and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited.
Abstract
The Commonwealth of Virginia is a state of rich heritage and extraordinary
natural beauty. Its attractions are as broad and diverse as its geography
and as abundant as its history. Stretching from the Atlantic Ocean to the Blue
Ridge and Allegheny mountains, Virginia is a mixture of exciting cities,
historic homes and towns, plentiful resources, and a wealth of recreational
activities.
It is therefore the purpose of this RFC to recommend that the Commonwealth
of Virginia be known for evermore as the Internet Capital of the World.
Table of Contents
1 Introduction.....................................
1.1 Purpose
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damn, that *is* an ugly website.... (Score:1)
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Re:Virginia ... *sigh* (Score:1)
TheGeek
Geekrights.org [geekrights.org]
Re:Actually (Score:1)
I think they should, because if it's the Internet C@pital, some psycho nutbar like Saddam "The Internet is the great Satan" Hussein will blow the hell out of it trying to shut it down.
POOF! No Virginia. POOF! No Iraq.
TheGeek
Geekrights.org [geekrights.org]
Ego, SuperEgo, (Score:1)
Paramount's Great America: center of the 'Net (Score:1)
Or, alternatively, for those looking for a real "capitol", the PacBell NAP (part of MAE West) is coincidentally on the same plot of land in downtown San Jose where the first capitol of California was 150 years ago. (Next time you're in SJ, look for the ring of palm trees around the historical marker between the Fairmont Hotel and Fairmont Office complex.)
Anyway, with the distributed nature of the Net, it's inevitable that lots of places will try to make their own criteria where they're the most important place on the Net. They're welcome to do so because, in their hype process, they'll buy more communications gear from Silicon Valley companies. (And that's good for my stock options. :-)
I personally think that the proportion of net.geeks in the population is the criteria that most people miss when they try to claim they've imitated Silicon Valley. It's taken all of this century to build up Silicon Valley to what it is. The technoculture here is just plain different.
Re:definition of capital (Score:1)
Anyhow, from definition 2, "I" would be the capital of "internet".
(and, therefore, TI would be the capitals of "the internet". Texas Instruments? What?)
Internet C@pital??? (Score:1)
There's only one thing though: AOL wouldn't have made it big if it weren't for companies based in Silicon Valley called 3Com, Cisco Systems and Netscape. Remember, Cisco provides the vast majority of the router hardware for Internet connections, and without Netscape, the Internet revolution would have taken a big longer to get going.
Re:Is Al Gore from Virginia? (Score:1)
Re:Virginia ... *sigh* (Score:1)
I enjoy Gore's proclamations as much as anyone, but let's face it: He is but a pale shadow of Quayle [xmission.com], and will never be able to fill the true genious' shoes.
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Have a Sloppy day!
Re:Heh (Score:1)
Holland?
You're BOTH missing it. Kalamazoo is OBVIOUSLY the capital of the Internet... at least we agree Michigan is the home of the capital of the internet :)
Re:"Virginia is for Losers" (Score:1)
damn straight (Score:1)
Re:From meaningfull to stupid.. (Score:1)
(note: sarcasm intended but not evident...I'm too tired to be funny)
Sillicon Valley (Score:1)
A couple years ago I saw a map showing the 'density' of installed Internet bandwidth by location. At that time, the SF Bay Area was massively more dense than any other part of the world.
While things probably have leveled out today, where the bandwidth is installed is probably more interesting than the topographical center or where the traffic is going through.
Jersey (Score:1)
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But.....? (Score:3)
-F
Virginia ... *sigh* (Score:2)
We need Al Gore to proclaim something outrageous again to divert attention
What about CNET? (Score:1)
Heh (Score:1)
Re:Then leave (Score:1)
michigan? virginia? (Score:1)
Re:Heh (Score:1)
Re:Huh? (Score:1)
And none of this supports the idea of placing the 'capital of the Internet' in Virginia.
umm...that doesn't expand well. (Score:2)
Re:michigan? virginia? (Score:1)
Seriously, though I think VA would qualify because thats where the Internet was born...(the Pentagon is, afterall, in Arlington.)
Re:Is Al Gore from Virginia? (Score:1)
There is a little known government law which rquires contractors and agencies to have offices to be within so many miles of the DC. The result a lot of things are based in Maryland and Virginia which into turn makes it one of the worst places for traffic.
"Virginia is for Losers" (Score:2)
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We all take pink lemonade for granted.
Most wired town (Score:1)
Re:"Virginia is for Losers" (Score:1)
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We all take pink lemonade for granted.
Re: (Score:2)
Virgini@ (Score:1)
Actually (Score:2)
Everyone knows that a disproportionate chunk of the Internet is centered in the Independent Privateer Republic of Fairfax (made up of Fairfax and Arlington counties and the city of Alexandria).
We have nothing to do with the rest of the state. We don't get along with them particularly well either.
My house is 1/2 mile from the UUNet building in Tysons to the north and 1/2 mile from the other UUNet building to the south (on 50). Novell is with AOL out in Dulles (AOL used to be near me in Vienna). In Tysons is Sprint, MCI, TCI, AT&T, Unisys, and just about everyone else.
It's a great place to live, much better than Pittsburgh (CMU should up and move)
Re:I'm a virginian, and *cough* we, uhm.. (Score:1)
Two comments:
1) If you don't want to grow up to be a goon, VCU might not be your best bet. Try VT or (gag) UVa.
2) I thought VA was the good ol' boy state too, until I moved to NC, which has a considerably higher good ol' boy factor. Then I saw SC, and that took the cake. I hope I never have to go to Georgia.
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internetc@pital.com (Score:1)
Maybe then everyone will want to be my friend...
Wow. A new trend. (Score:1)
Does this mean everyone in Washington, D.C. will get funky new plates that say, "Bull-shitters Capitol" and California will get the "Plastic Surgery Capitol"?!?! What should Rhode Island have??
...and Apple (Score:1)
http://hypermall.com/History/ah22.html#AppleLin
This is no mere coincidence... (Score:1)
I should try moving to West Virginia as a joke and see if it helps them at all
Side note : You know, I'd be much happier with this if I could get a
Re:Internet C@pital? (Score:1)
Methinks Texas should get ahold of the title... (Score:2)
For one thing, we are the telcom capital of the world... Okay, so maybe its not the internet now, but you wait... All these companies will be/are shifting their business towards internet switches, etc..
PS: How many companies are here, you ask? Just in a teeny tiny little area here in Richardson (north of Dallas), we have over 600 different telcom companies. That's not counting the companies in other parts of Richardson or anywhere else in or around Dallas.. (Its about a 2mi * 5mi range called the Telcom corridor)
Ahhhh well... Perhaps in a few years we'll get recognition.
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"A mind is a horrible thing to waste. But a mime...
It feels wonderful wasting those fsckers."
Re:I'm a virginian, and *cough* we, uhm.. (Score:1)
of the best in the world. Its medical school MCV
is also very good.
People put down VCU all the time because it's located in downtown Richmond. They're just scared
of going to one of the only schools in Virgina
where white people don't make up over 50% of the
population.
It all depends what you're looking for in the end.
And VCU is the most diverse school in Virginia.
Re:Heh (Score:2)
-Al-
P.S. If anyone is driving into Michigan taking I-94 and you see someone hanging upside down by there pant leg from the Welcome sign that goes over the road. PLEASE HELP ME!
definition of capital (Score:1)
1 a (1) : a stock of accumulated goods especially at a specified time and in contrast to income received during a specified period; also : the value of these accumulated goods (2) : accumulated goods devoted to the production of other goods (3): accumulated possessions calculated to bring in income b (1) : net worth (2) : CAPITAL STOCK c : persons holding capital d : ADVANTAGE, GAIN
(make capital of the situation)
2 [capital] a : a capital letter; especially : an initial capital letter b : a letter belonging to a style of alphabet modeled on the style customarily used in inscriptions
3 [capital] a : a city serving as a seat of government b : a city preeminent in some special activity (the fashion capital)
"Trouble is, just because it's obvious doesn't mean it's true"
Huh? (Score:1)
I thought the first TCP/IP transmission happened between UCLA and Stanford, thus defining the 'birth' of the Internet:
http://www.sjmercury.com/svtech/columns/modemdr
That firmly places the 'birthplace' of the Internet in California...
Stupid specialty license plates. (Score:3)
The link from the Wired story that has the actual picture of the plate says that that "Virginia offers more than 150 specialized plates...". 150!?!? That's ridiculous! Isn't the primary point of license plates to identify the car for legal purposes? How is a Virginia cop supposed to recognize 150 different license plates so he knows that one or another isn't a fake? What do you say when you see a hit-and-run or something?
cop: Did you see the license plate?
you: Yeah. It was 32DFJ-23.
cop: What state?
you: Uh, I dunno. It had a picture of a rabbit, I think. Or maybe it was a Klansman. All I know is that he had a carrot or a flaming cross.
cop: uh-huh.
Now I'm not really suggesting that these types of plates are going to enable people to remain anonymous from crimes (no security through obscurity!), but I'm just "nostalgic" (imagine that at 19 years old) for the days when Virginia's license plate was Virginia's license plate and they all looked the same. Do you have to pay to get a special "internet" license plate (probably)? It sounds like a stupid scheme to get more money from the super-consumers that the internet has contributed to. If you really need to express your personality to people behind you in traffic, just get a bumper sticker. It just seems really lame to try to pigeonhole your personality through some government-created license plate.
The real Internet birthplace (Score:1)
The papers [rand.org] which started it all were written at RAND in Santa Monica, CA (though the Pentagon paid for them). As for the birth of the ARPANET, which became the Internet--well, even though BBN (in Cambridge, MA) was contracted by (D)ARPA to build the hardware, the actual "first byte" was transmitted at UCLA, which last time I checked was in Los Angeles, CA.
The most popular Internet site [yahoo.com] is based in Santa Clara, CA. (AOL claims more visits, but a significant fraction of these aren't Internet-based). The major manufacturers of Internet infrastructure equipment are based in Silicon Valley, also in CA.
If being the center of Net VC and Net Companies doesn't make Silicon Valley the "center of the Internet," what would?
Re:Wow. A new trend. (Score:1)
Hey, that's nothin'. We now have Interstate Mark McGwire here in St. Louis. Just because he hit seventy homeruns (shakes head). And poor Joltin Joe had to wait until he was on his deathbed before those bastards in New York would give him his highway (That's right New York, you heard me). Thank god we also have a highway 67 in case he only hits that many this hear.
Our motto here in Missoura is "The Show-Me" state. Show you what? I have no freaking idea. The money? My bunghole? Well okay. They should have called us:
Missouri "Hey, we've got an extremely large, metal, half of a McDonald's sign standing next to the dirtiest river in North America and you don't" state.
Re:Huh? (Score:1)
The Internet existed before TCP/IP, tho.
Re:Heh (Score:1)
3rd floor kirkpatrick? hmmm...i know one person on second floor and from what i hear you guys have some funky rules about playing your music too loud. it`s not as restricted in our solid oak and concrete building here eh
Re:Heh (Score:1)
__niteq__
Re:Heh (Score:1)
Re:figures.. (Score:1)
In defense of DC (Score:1)
DC gets a bad rap, but there are a lot of people who would rather not live in the endless NoVa suburbia. Whatever your choice is, more power to ya. And yes, currently I live in "the yuppie section" of DC (Dupont), but I used to live in heavily hispanic Adams Morgan, and I miss my old neighbors.
There's also poor sections of town, and dangerous sections. Show me a city where there aren't poor and dangerous sections. All I know is I've never once felt threatened walking around the city, alone, very late at night. People are just nicer here. Whenever I'm in NoVa, everyone looks hurried, mean and unhappy.
I roll my windows up and lock the doors when I leave the city.
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We all take pink lemonade for granted.
Re:Virginia (Score:1)
Re:michigan? virginia? (Score:1)
NONONO!! (Score:1)
You got it ALL wrong!
Janet Reno's the mother of the Internet, Al Gore is the father of the Internet, Linus helped deliver the child, and Virginia adopted the worthless little shit.
Re:Stupid specialty license plates. (Score:1)
Re:And... (Score:1)
Gore & Quayle (Score:1)
Re:C@lifornia (Score:1)
The first two nodes: UCLA and Stanford Research Institute (now SRI International).
KV
No, You're Mistaken (Score:1)
It's interesting that you would falsly accuse the good Commonwealth of using the wrong spelling of the word, when it is actually you who suggested the wrong spelling of the word.
What makes it even more interesting is that you went so far as to include the definitions of the two words, which proved their spelling and disproved yours.
As I learned many years ago, and the definitions in your post clearly explain, is that the city is capital and the building is capitol.
RP
uhm...i don't see why (Score:1)
how ever, half the population at least is like, bubba-ville (atleast the part of the state i'm in)
maybe if i got my ass out of my room, off of my computers, and looked out side, i might see where the c@pital is...hrm...oh well
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bsDaemon
dfree@inna.net
"the United States is like that guy at the party who gives everyone cocaine and still nobdy likes him"
Re:I heard MA is getting in on it... (Score:1)
"'Internet C@pital'? Aww, Virginia thinks it's important! that's awful cute."
Re:Stupid specialty license plates. (Score:1)
The worst of which, from the standpoint of recognition, is the Pennsylvania "Flagship Niagra" plate. It has white lettering on a pale brown image, giving very little contrast between the lettering and the background. The State Police were opposed to this design for good reason, but I gather that PennDOT or the state legislature ignored that practical matter and made the decision on aesthetic grounds.
I just visited the PennDOT [state.pa.us] web page to try to link to a picture of this plate, but it appears not to be available these days. I wonder why...
Washington State should get that title (Score:1)
How embarassing (Score:1)
To UVa). This is really embarassing. It's like when you were a kid, and your grandmother
made you wear a shirt that said "Nana's Favorite Boy"
and all your friends saw you and they'd laugh.
Not that it ever happened to me...or if it did, I blocked it out.
Did @l Gore invent Virginia? I'm confused...
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Re:Heh (Score:1)
rgdx
Re:Actually (Score:1)
I don't think virginia should issue this plate though Besides being stupid it defeats the view of the internet as a collection of computers with no true centralized point
Re: (Score:1)
Re:Actually (Score:1)
As for NetSol -- So what happens when their competition overwhelms them with competence? Will the license plates then read, "The state formerly known as the Internet C@pital"?
(Former Pissburgher now on the left coast)
Re:Ack! Yeah right (Score:2)
Internet Cat Piddle? Sounds like Mr. Bigglesworth is involved somehow!
Re:"Virginia is for Losers" (Score:1)
Good god, what am I doing? Replying to an AC troll? How low have I sunk??
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Re:Huh? (Score:1)
Re:Heh (Score:1)
I keep on badgering ATT@HOME to get service out here but noooooooo.... They do not feel like upgrading this town.
Re:But.....? (Score:1)
Re:Virginia ... *sigh* (Score:1)
Re:And... (Score:1)
watch your flame.
Where's Virgnia? (Score:1)
Re:umm...that doesn't expand well. (Score:1)
Re:But.....? (Score:2)
This is really goint to tick off... (Score:1)
Re:Er, wait a minute (Score:1)
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Re:Er, wait a minute (Score:1)
figures.. (Score:3)
Network Solutions and Northern Virginia e-business, Strategic-INFO developed the plate and worked with Virginia Delegate Jeannemarie Devolites to garner support for it from Virginia's General Assembly.
Ack! Yeah right (Score:5)
"There is no surer way to ruin a good discussion than to contaminate it with the facts."
C@lifornia (Score:1)
I can tell you the meaning of life,
No. St. Louis! (Score:1)
Just waiting for my T1 to come up in my townhouse so I can move the box.
Re:Most wired town (Score:1)
Re:I'm a virginian, and *cough* we, uhm.. (Score:1)
Re:Virginia (Score:1)
Virginia is very net savy! There aren't many people or business I know around here that aren't on the net. Hell even the local laundry mats have web cams...
Watch my computer yard sale this saturday here.
eservnet.com/yardsale
Catpital? (Score:1)
Eventually, Virginia will pupate and finally become an adult butterfly, fluttering across a green meadow, chased by a cat... Hey, cats, CATpital... obviously, I'm on the right track.
And... (Score:2)
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We all take pink lemonade for granted.
Re:Virginia ... *sigh* (Score:1)
The notion that he claimed to have invented the internet was developed by opposition pundits in an attempt to portray him as a liar, with delusions of grandeur.
Why am posting this? Because you all sound stupid when you're making fun of Gore for saying that, when in reality you've been duped by knee-jerk, right-wing Clinton haters...
I know Slashdotters are smarter than that.
MAE East (Score:4)
all internet traffic, and some 80% of international traffic passed through MAE East.
Recently however the proliferation of private peering has significantly reduced those
numbers (of course a significant ammount of private peering occurs between backbone routers at
the MAE East location(s).
As for where the Internet was born, The Pentagon in Arlington, VA is technically the correct location, while the Implementation began in Cambridge, MA.
As for Sillicon Valley? Well they were the capital of the previous revolution,
the Personal Computer. They might even say they are the center of Net VC, and Net Companies, but
not the Internet itself.
I heard MA is getting in on it... (Score:3)
Re:Internet C@pital? (Score:2)
The State Capitol is in Richmond. It is a building.
The Inbreeding Capital of America is West Virginia. It is a place.
And there you have it.
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Re:Internet C@pital? (Score:3)
Very interesting etymology on capitol vs. capital...
Main Entry: capitol
Etymology: Latin Capitolium, temple of Jupiter at Rome on the Capitoline hill
1 a : a building in which a state legislative body meets b : a group of buildings in which the functions of state government are carried out
2
3capital
Etymology: French or Italian; French, from Italian capitale, from capitale, adjective, chief, principal, from Latin capitalis
1 a (1) : a stock of accumulated goods especially at a specified time and in contrast to income received during a specified period; also : the value of these accumulated goods (2) : accumulated goods devoted to the production of other goods (3) : accumulated possessions calculated to bring in income
3 [2capital] a : a city serving as a seat of government b : a city preeminent in some special activity "the fashion capital"
Political Idiots (Score:2)
As was pointed out in the article, there really is no center of the internet. It's built on the hub and spoke system. Almost any major metro area can claim to be "internet capitol". Usually, they are just satisfied with "the next silicon valley".
Its funny, in the Midwest, we have several areas competing to be the Silicon Prarie!
And I'm sure all this will play well over in Europe... These stupid politians keep forgetting that the internet is only partially based in the US.