First KDE 4 Snapshot Released 60
Rich writes "KDE has just released the first developer snapshot of KDE 4. This release isn't for end users, but should help developers who want to begin writing applications for the KDE 4 desktop. This release already includes a new CMake based build system, a change from DCOP to DBUS and of course a port to Qt 4. If you're interested in desktop development, check it out."
Screenshots? (Score:5, Funny)
(Bye bye karma. We will miss you).
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One major change is that KDE is switches to a new build system [kde.org]
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Huh, which multimedia doesn't Linux support? The only stuff I can think of is DRM-infected stuff that I wouldn't touch with a bargepole. Certainly Linux plays all my CDs and DVDs just fine.
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Dbus over Dcop? (Score:4, Insightful)
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DBUS OVER DCOP (Score:3, Funny)
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I'll switch to dbus when ... (Score:5, Insightful)
But I guess, it is a good thing KDE and gnome are converging ... for the linux desktop, at least in the short term.
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DBUS is just a message passing layer implementation. How that functionality is exposed is still well within the control of the KDE developers.
I don't think you have anything to worry about. If you have something to worry about, then I have something to worry about... and I'm not worried.
Just chill and look forward to Kerry, solid, phonon, plasma, and all the rest of the good stuff coming our way
-Laxitive
Here We Go Again! (Score:5, Funny)
In the blue corner, weighing in at 205 pounds - GNOME! He's certainly the more agile of the two, with considerably greater speed. There have been doubts about whether he has enough tools and power to stay competitive with his opponent, though. He is certainly the promoters favourite, however, and has consequently attracted more in the way of sponsorship. The main power brokers in the business are certainly getting behind this one. Preferred taunt of opponent: 'Bloaty Man'.
In the red corner, the crowd favourite, weighing in at 325 pounds - KDE! He clearly has the weight advantage, but of course he isn't the speediest in the ring and may get caught wrong-footed if he's not careful. He also has more tricks up his sleeve than his opponent - but how many of them are really useful and how many are just for showing off? Many have remarked on his resemblance to the former champion from Redmond (who was sadly stripped of his title for match-fixing), but he claims to be no relation. A lot of the old hands in the business say he is the one to beat. Preferred taunt of opponent: 'Pretty Boy'.
Well, it's certainly been a tedious and in many ways pointless fight! Just when it seemed that someone was gaining the upper hand, the other fought back and it still seems to be pretty much level overall. It may have to be decided on points, but there has been much controversy over the alleged bias of the judges, with both fighters' supporters accusing them of siding with their opponent.
Well, it's time to cut to a commercial break, but don't worry as there is no doubt that this fight is going to run and run.
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For some odd reasons, there is a group of A.C.s that seem bent on starting a battle between these groups and making them focus on each other rather than focusing on beating others groups.
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BINGO. :) You can tell the typical trolls, AC or otherwise, by their comments about appearance. The AC you responded to made a reference to KDE having a "resemblance to the former champion from Redmond", for example. This is a dead give-away that the AC hasn't actually used KDE and is merely "stirring the pot", hoping to get a fight started. The truth is you can make KDE look, and in many ways act, like jus
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complex customizing = complex internals?
Don't think that is true. When you look at the depencies KDE is clean. And QT is beauty, very clean and organised.
Gnome was chaotic, then they removed the setting. But you can still customize it.
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Controversy makes discussions intresting. Same goes for politics.
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b) surface
When b) is simple and a) is chaotic you cannot feel safe. And a) and b) have little in common.
It is like putting garbage down under your bed.
And we know that Gnome, like or not, is rotten on level b.
I don't think KDE increased its complexity.
Problems of Graphical Operating Environments are today not on the KDE/Gnome level but in the backend, in the space where distributors take responsibility. I mean system configuration, package management, etc. Most problems are interface related. Yo
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But the reaction on OSnews was exactly what I was poking fun at. I just think it's really sad how seriously and personally some people take criticism of their preferred GUI, and I couldn't resist throwing that one out there to see the response. Childish, I know, but not as childish as being in love with a Desktop Environment. Of course, I co
Kde 4.0? :) (Score:4, Insightful)
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Composite Kwin. When? (Score:1)
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It does have edge-snapping though, it just does it in a brain-damaged way where you have to hold shift and the snap distance is too big to be useful. Oh and it depends on the wobble plugin for no apparent reason.
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The proper way is followed by RedHat anyway, not Novell. Xgl is obsolete despite the hype.
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CMake and KDE (Score:5, Interesting)
Seeing KDE adopting it has been great news for me, since it means that I may be able to start releasing my own small projects with CMakeList.txt files without getting funny looks. I love that it's looking like KDE will blaze the trail for us little guys who prefer CMake over the autoconf tool chain.
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For KDE the question is how to attract more developers to the plattform. The answer is of course to remove entrance barriers, e.g. the small annoyances which regularly break stuff and need certain more or less trivial knowledge to fix them.
Cmake has to sides:
a) you have to learn it and it is different from the usual toolchain
b) it solves certain problems.
KDevelop4 will dave integrated forms design (Score:3, Informative)
It's All Personal Tastes (Score:2)
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Its about the underlying toolkits that allow you to create and integrate all the great applications that we all want to use. Changes like this are more intended for developers to get exited about, not the end users... ( tho agreed, in the end they benefit as well )
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