
Videoblog Revolution 180
mr_don't writes "Not too long ago Slashdot featured a post about photoblogs. It claimed that photoblogging is the next big thing, but really it has been around a while (notice how lots of folks posted a link to their photoblogs!). I think the next big thing will be VideoBlogging. Many have seen Peter Jackson's cool King Kong Video Blog, but you don't need whole a camera crew to blog using video. My made-on-linux video blog."
Word of Advice (Score:5, Funny)
Err.... (Score:3, Interesting)
"Captain's Log, Stardate blah blah blah blah blah..."
We're actually moving toward logging our days into a computer, and then when something goes wrong, investigators come in later and go through our personal logs to see what happened in the days leading up to.
Life is becoming one large, pathetic 'Trek episode.
God, I'm a geek.
(You made me wonderfully and perfectly so...I think?
Re:Err.... (Score:3, Insightful)
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Re:Err.... (Score:2)
Uhmmm... this is different from a diary, how? Nothing new here, move along. Well, the video & computer elements are new but the concept is the same, no?
Re:Word of Advice (Score:3, Funny)
Actually this has been around quite awhile, it is called "porn".
Re:Word of Advice (Score:2)
If I wear a cape, will you call me Captain Obvious?
Re:Word of Advice (Score:2)
Crash (Score:1)
Re:Crash (Score:4, Informative)
"....whooooooosh....." (Score:4, Funny)
Re:"....whooooooosh....." (Score:3, Insightful)
(Why is "hey did you guyz know you can put video files on teh intarweb!" front page news on slashdot?)
Not true.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Not true.... (Score:2)
I Really Fancy a Hot Dog Right Now (Score:2, Funny)
That being said, I do not have, nor ever want, a blo
Reminds me of exclusionists on Wikipedia. (Score:2)
This idea misunderstands the nature of the internet. It's not like a book. There's not a limited amount of space. (Well, there is. But it's not limited enough to matter if you're
Re:Not true.... (Score:3, Funny)
Yup. Nobody should ever communicate (Score:2)
Re:Not true.... (Score:2)
I sincerely hope the 'next thing' will include all or some of the following: "getting a life, reading a book, going out with your family, visiting a museum, helping out at your local school, church, mosque etc., calling an old friend on the phone, visitng a park, planting a tree, volunteering for charity work, baking some cakes for the local old folks home etc.".
If even a fraction of the time spent blogging was put to some sensible use the whole community w
Photo blogs for people with a life (Score:2)
Bandwidth... (Score:4, Insightful)
Two excellent reasons why videoblogging is a nonstarter.
Re:Bandwidth... (Score:5, Funny)
Of course, the second issue kind of takes care of the first. Based on the quality of most letter-blogs out there, I suspect that the vast majority of videoblogs could be safely co-hosted from a single Commodore 64 and a 300-baud modem.
Re:Bandwidth... (Score:5, Funny)
Of course, the second issue kind of takes care of the first. Based on the quality of most letter-blogs out there, I suspect that the vast majority of videoblogs could be safely co-hosted from a single Commodore 64 and a 300-baud modem.
That's just a cruel way to treat a Commodore 64 with a 300 baud modem. This equipment had nothing to do with the assclown videoblog crowd.
Re:Bandwidth... (Score:3, Insightful)
However, if common bw increases 10-100 fold over what we have now, will actual videoblogs be possible if we can use innovative featur
blog appeal (Score:3, Insightful)
Somehow the thought of actively browsing the web looking for random folks sticking their fingers up their noses and generally acting strange reminds me of a couple of years ago.
At least if these folks have gone wireless and are in public, they may behave a little more civilised.
What's the sound... (Score:2)
C'mon boys, let's get him!
How much does it cost (Score:3, Funny)
Need...more...bandwidth (Score:2, Funny)
I won't be doing high-def videoblogging unless I get my own ATSC transmitter tower!
Re:Need...more...bandwidth (Score:2)
Re:Need...more...bandwidth (Score:2)
Wasting bandwidth (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously, whose life is 1) so exciting that video clips are required for full appreciation and 2) not too exciting to have enough time to record the whole thing on video?
Re:Wasting bandwidth (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Wasting bandwidth (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Wasting bandwidth (Score:2)
Recording isn't the time-killer... Editing is the time-killer.
I started recording the Houston LUG meetings on video a few months back. Initially I used a single camera and panned between the speaker and the projection screen. After the first video it became obvious that one camera constantly pointed at the screen and one camera con
Re:Wasting bandwidth (Score:2)
As for editing, it
Re:Wasting bandwidth (Score:2)
I'd love to share notes with anyone that's trying to do something substantially similar. The original intention was to build a DVD and VHS video library to share with other LUGs and offer as a starting point fo
Re:Wasting bandwidth (Score:2)
Re:Wasting bandwidth (Score:2)
Re:Wasting bandwidth (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Wasting bandwidth (Score:2)
Re:Wasting bandwidth (Score:2)
Re:Wasting bandwidth (Score:2)
BTW, in case you missed it, the price of bandwidth for consumers has gone down, largely driven by the increased multimedia content on the web. Flash is about the bigest non-porn reason people want bandwidth.
Wasting bandwidth (Score:2)
This is about the fifth +5 insightful, funny troll post about what a waste video blogging is.
No bandwith is wasted when someone visits a site and downloads a video. They want to see it. Tons of bandwith is wasted every day by advertisers who movies into 80% of their visitor's browsers. Requested video i
Re:Wasting bandwidth (Score:2)
This month's linux journal has an article on making movies with Linux, and it was written several months ago. Though, Angula is neat...
Re:Wasting bandwidth (Score:2)
The flash trash, moving gif polution in the average IE session. You know, top, left, right, bottom and mid article advertisements that take up about 80 of a person's browser. Maybe you don't know because you have a browser that blocks most of that or you have not installed flash. About 75% of the world uses M$ IE which has numerous exploits to make things even worse, such as porn advert hijacking. A large portion of the rest use a better browsers on
link whore (Score:4, Interesting)
Videoblogging (Score:2)
The real next big thing... (Score:3, Funny)
/.ing a page with video files is never a good idea!
We already have this... (Score:2)
Oh, wait, did you mean without taking your clothes off? Never mind.
web software (Score:2)
slashdotted (Score:2)
errrrrm (Score:5, Funny)
I read you on the usenet back in Ninety Two Lying awake intent at typing in on you. If I was young it didn't stop you coming through. Oh-a oh
They took the credit for your second symphony. Rewritten by machine and new technology, and now I understand the problems you can see.
Oh-a oh
I met your children
Oh-a oh
What did you tell them?
Video killed the Weblog star.
Video killed the Weblog star.
Pictures came and broke your heart.
Oh-a-a-a oh
And now we meet in an abandoned chatroom. We see the text words and it seems so long ago. And you remember the Smilies that came through :).
Oh-a oh
You were the first one.
Oh-a oh
You were the last one.
Video killed the Weblog star.
Video killed the Weblog star.
In my mind and in my car,
we can't rewind we've gone to far
Oh-a-aho oh,
Oh-a-aho oh
Video killed the Weblog star.
Video killed the Weblog star.
Re:errrrrm (Score:2)
I doubt it will be more meaningful than photos (Score:5, Insightful)
Photos are becoming better catalogued, but anyone who has used Google's image search will tell you, we're still a long way off from something akin to "good."
Video will pose even bigger problems for search engines, meaning that most video clips that are posted will be ignored. Only those with something really valuable (political scandal, hot chicks, etc.) *AND* easily found will see any significant distribution and/or audience.
Just my prediction...prolly wrong.
Re:I doubt it will be more meaningful than photos (Score:5, Insightful)
I think you meant to say "easily pollutes search engines".
Re:I doubt it will be more meaningful than photos (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:I doubt it will be more meaningful than photos (Score:2)
You will hear no such heresy from me! [google.com]
Search less relevant to most video/photo blogs (Score:2)
How do you speed-read a video? (Score:4, Insightful)
Watching a video requires the willingness and ability to follow the pace of the videomaker--which restricts audience. While you can skim through a bad writer's rantings and see very quickly if there is anything of value in a couple of pages of text, doing so on video is impractical.
Additionally, a good-paced video is actually hard to edit, and not something that most of us have been trained for in school, contrary to writing.
Sounds like a gimmick doomed to fail.
Re:How do you speed-read a video? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Yay! Community-access TV now on demand! (Score:2)
Re:Yay! Community-access TV now on demand! (Score:2)
One could argue that blogs right now bring you poorly-written Xeroxed leaflets and vanity-press books, ON DEMAND.
obviously not a person who lived in hotown (Score:2)
OK this is stupid (Score:2)
Why the hell would I want to sit down and have to catch up with people in effectively "real time" on a videoblog? What a waste of time...
Re:OK this is stupid (Score:2)
Smelloblogs (Score:2)
Next up: smelloblogs. To be soon followed by tasteoblogs.
Bon appetite!
Re:I totally disagree (Score:2)
We can do text... voice... video... why not sex? It's just a matter of time...
How fast can you Scan a Videoblog? (Score:2)
Think:
Audioblogging's limitations can perhaps be alieviated by Audioblog mixing, [emacswiki.org] with something like UserRadio, [ment.org] or playing the audioblogs at high speed.
You might be able to extend video with that, but I'd probably rather just cut the visual, so I could do other things at the same time.
Re:How fast can you Scan a Videoblog? (Score:2)
Please spare us (Score:3, Funny)
Photo blogging is worse, because those same boring people take picture of ugly and uninteresting places and people. To make things worse, most people don't get out enough to provide a reasonable variety in subject and have a total lack of photography skill resulting isn awful pictures.
Now comes video blogging, where those same people unable to get a life run around with a video camera to capture uninteresting ugly people in boring places making ineptly a fool out of themselves.
For all three categories, if any of those bloggers had any skill at writing, taking pictures or filming, they would be hired to do it for a living and not waste their time updating blogs.
The only blogs of interest contain good-looking naked women best presented by professionals to make it look like snapshots. But this is a different well-established industry.
Re:Please spare us (Score:2)
Dumpster diving (Score:2)
The only benefit of blogging is that it's harmless to others and doesn't pollute the enviromnent too much.
Bandwidth / storage solved (Score:3, Insightful)
By syndicating .torrents automatically, channels of swarming mirroring can be formed to amass what could be called efficient broadcasting. On private lans, there's also no reason why you couldn't run VLC and Myth, and have a complete video network with on-demand-downloadable-by-bt type content, as well as redistribution of streaming media already out on the net (remember the internet tv article?)
This is big, and it is hot. It's not *entirely* the downfall of big media, but it is in fact the eventuality of big media as our channel list grows, and our options for consumption and means of consuming this media grow.
Some claim that this means TV and Film will die, or that all this material will end up looking like the lamest of public-access tv....
Well, public access TV looks almost exactly in production, quality, and distribution as mid-80's regionally-produced TV shows (like Romper Room, or Cleveland's SUPERHOST!)
Also, your kids are going to school and learning video production... on DV equipment in some cases.
So, it's not the end of big media... it's the start of a new decentralized wonder. It'll probably both be worse than today (ads that make Futurama's attempts at advertising parody not funny anymore), and much purer (how about a family, community, slashdot, or special interest group TV show? Commercial free?)
As a side note, some of these patterns will most likely be evident in tonight's Frontline on PBS about the "persuasion industry" ... I'll be watching that one!
Anyway, start looking into this stuff, because it is what you make it. If you want to bitch about it, well, start your own damn TV show.
Re:Bandwidth / storage solved (Score:3, Interesting)
However, I
YAWF (Score:2)
Re:YAWF (Score:2)
Gallery + Nokia Image Uploader API (Score:2)
What I use is the rather well-known PHP-based Gallery [menalto.com] photo management / presentation software, combined with an implementation of the Nokia Image Upload Server API [nokia.com] as a plugin [menalto.com] for Gallery.
It works great... I just snap a picture on the phone, go to the Gallery (on th
Next it will (Score:2)
The Next "BIG THING" (Score:3)
It is hard for me to imagine choosing to sit at a computer and watch someone talk, compared to being able to listen to them talk, anywhere, anytime, on my iPod.
Unless they are doing something interesting... well that leaves out the realms of home-reno, reality-tv, & porno, I guess (-:
Pixie
Re:The Next "BIG THING" (Score:2)
Re:The Next "BIG THING" (Score:2)
But the medium *does* need mass appeal (or at least some kind of critical mass) to become the 'next big thing'. The value of the medium has to outweigh the inconvenience, I think. I can read about cool concerts coming up in my town in a blog easier than I can download the video and watch it. And I can't see what extra value would come out of watching it instead of
Re:The Next "BIG THING" (Score:2, Interesting)
imo, a vidblog is better when it's more artsy and less bloggy, but there are different camps out there
Re:The Next "BIG THING" (Score:2)
Aha, I was lacking in vision... I hadn't really thought of the 'documentary' style of blogging, I was just thinking about people wanting to state their opinions & insights to the world, and I couldn't imagine why they would need to do that on video.
I stand corrected - the value of that content is definitely worth the bandwidth...
Thanks!
Pixie
caught on tape (Score:2)
Fragmentation Post (Score:2)
My made-on-linux video blog.
My made-on-linux video blog is what? Citzens of slashdot, do not fear. I will tirelessly search for the verb of that sentence. You will be the first to know when I discover it.
more resources for videobloggers (Score:2, Informative)
Jay Dedman [typepad.com] is to be congratulated for his evangelizing, and his hard work!
And of course there is me, the geek jihadi [tigerbliss.com].
Only with RSS2.0 (Score:2, Insightful)
Check it out here: www.videoblog.tv
Now there are a few new tools that will make the second problem less severe:
1) Wirecast & VideoCue by Vara Software
2) Live Channel by Channel Storm
3) RSS 2.0 with enclosures.
I disagree with the post about audioblogs. I load 'em up using iPodderX and then have an huge library
Useless shit (Score:2)
It's okay to archive video blogs, but on the Web just doesn't make sense yet. Unless you append each file with a bunch of keywords (which is idiotic by itself).
Video Blogging- Not Much Hope (Score:2, Interesting)
Current big thing: Podcasting... (Score:2)
Podcasting! Seriously. Audio blogs fetched automatically.
Go here [ipodder.org] and here. [podcaster.net]
Does not require an iPod. Really simple syndication (RSS) with encosures.
I'm using a 76 line Bash script. [homeunix.org]
Current favorite feeds (RSS - not browseable web pages!);
Some really interesting things out there...as well as garbage. I'd t
Re:Current big thing: Podcasting... (Score:2)
Re:Current big thing: Podcasting... (Score:2)
Thanks -- though I have been! The Daily Show's Bush words vs. facts video was fun.
From the Podcasting side, I can see the need for having transcripts. With text blogs, you can search them as-is. With audio or video blogs...there's little that is searchable. Anu idea if the video bloggers are considering this as an extra bit of data in the RSS feed?
Re:Current big thing: Podcasting... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Current big thing: Podcasting... (Score:2)
Are there any good speaker independant voice to text programs out there now? Even if there are, I can't see the poor quality of the current audio in most audio blogs being used to make useful transcripts.
Please don't use RealAudio for this stuff (Score:2)
Most MS users have to download the most crappy, worm-infested, memory-bloated, piece of shit software put out by any commecial company to listen and watch your stuff. And it keeps getting worse each year. So help put this sorry piece of crap protocol into the sesspool of history where it belongs and quit using RealAudio.
Problems with video blogs... (Score:3, Informative)
That said, I think that video blogs will become popular...though it may be a couple years before these issues aren't as big of a problem to deal with.
The next big thing will be VideoBlogging (Score:2)
[sarcasm]Yeah and then people could use tiny cameras that we will call "webcams" and then some people will even tell their lives on the web site and film themselves 24h on 24h. What an excellent original new idea!!![sarcasme/]
Ben Brown was an early videoblogger (Score:3, Insightful)
He went away, but I have to say, that was a pretty good archetype for the video blogger. Just I think that video bloggers have even more of a problem in that they're not easily searchable, and one has to dedicate time to see the content more than pictures or text. It is far easier to turn people off than to turn them on because of the time a viewer needs to invest.
Re:Does anyone remember... (Score:3, Insightful)