Microsoft Plans News Aggregator 265
wyldeone writes "ZDNet says Microsoft is planning on creating a news aggregation service similar to Google's Google News. It will draw headlines from over 4,800 sites. It will also provide customized feeds, similar to Googles News alerts. Here is the beta version of the site."
What's new? (Score:5, Insightful)
From the looks of Microsoft's news bot site here it appears that ther innovations are links to Hotmail, shopping, other proprietary properties and news programs of either Microsoft and NBC, and notably in the Science/Health categories, we have business news about companies such as Boston Scientific rather than real Science news. It's also more bandwidth intensive than the Google news site.
Re:What's new? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:What's new? (Score:3, Funny)
I can see this state-of-the-art algorithm used by MSN News.
Re:What's new? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:What's new? (Score:2)
Every person/company who has ever made a website has said this.
Microsoft News...The name you trust. (Score:2, Insightful)
Ummmmm, yea, Microsoft as a news provider. Just the job for a convicted monopoly. And don't say, "They're just getting news from other sites" because what you choose to cover is the biggest bias in the news industry.
I wish they would get over this illusion that they are a content provider. They are SUPPOSED to be a software company, and hell, I'll even throw the X-Box in that category. Maybe if they stopped trying to own one of everything and just concentrated on their damn OS, it would be worth buying.
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Re:Microsoft News...The name you trust. (Score:3, Interesting)
Case and point: IE comes with windows, it's icon is put on the desktop. It has, what, 90% market share? It was considered big inroads for Firefox the other week when Firefox gaine
Re:Microsoft News...The name you trust. (Score:2)
I wish they would get over this illusion that they are a content provider.
What did the MS in MSNBC stand for, again? Microsoft is a content provider, and with respect to MSNBC's offerings not appreciably more or less trustworthy than most others. They seem to cover Microsoft's latest worms
Not only that... (Score:2)
Not only is Microsoft imitating success, but they are doing a bad job of it by adding several annoying elements. This works when you have a monopoly. Thank heavens for Google.
Does anyone actually use MSN Search [msn.com]?
Is anyone such a prisoner of Microsoft offerings that they don't have a friend who told them about Google?
Re:Not only that... (Score:2)
I just saw the line at the bottom of MSN Search [msn.com] It's improved:
MSN Search is improved! Check it out. [msn.com]"
Layout (Score:3, Funny)
Re:What's new? (Score:3, Insightful)
Sure, sometimes it backfires or fails miserably. But then again, if you don't risk now and then, you will not make significant gains either. Microsoft knows this all too well.
Click here for the Mystery Futures Link [tradesims.com]!
Re:What's new? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:What's new? (Score:3, Informative)
If you're looking for something simple and easy to use, Findory News [findory.com] is another good choice.
Re:What's new? (Score:2)
1) It seems it would require YET ANOTHER login and password and links that to all my news habits
2) The history of algorithms trying to guess what I'm interested has been exceedingly poor.
Maybe the reason I'm not interested is because of point #2, and that said, I'll go visit memigo.com and see what I think. Somehow I like the purity of Google News - its anonym
Re:What's new? (Score:2)
But you mentioned the Zaurus, so you will probably like the PDA version [memigo.com] of memigo, which was actually the original reason I built the site (not just PDA-formatted, but linking to PDA-formatted articles as well, and customized for you)...
i've been trying to do the same thing (Score:2, Interesting)
I've been building my own news aggregate too
same sort of idea, let the user see what they want, do some searching and browsing by category
i really want to do something like slashdot does and let you pick the channels that show up by default, but I just haven't gotten there yet
anyways, it's at http://fooey.net/NewsArchives/ [fooey.net]
only problem is the stupid thing is too addicting, and I end up spending WAY too much time reading the hundreds upon hundreds of articles scrolling through it every day
Re:What's new? (Score:2, Interesting)
I have a feeling that this is the behavior pattern of a dinosaur as it goes off to die. In this industry it really is innovate or die, which gets harder and hardeer as a corporation gets large and lethargic. Again, I think Microsft rewally is their own worst enemy.
Re:What's new? (Score:2)
So, there's beta, and then there's *beta*. One headline is duplicated. Another few link to the wrong articles.
Sorting that out is pretty basic stuff and should be done before any kind of public beta.
I like the layout though.
Funny excerpt from the article about Bush on his mountain bike:
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"I'm gonna show you a hill that would choke a mule," he says.
He hits the brakes and is steadily advancing downhill when his front tire loses its grip amid the loose rocks. His foot gets stuck in a strap that keeps it
Re:What's new? (Score:2)
If done right, personalized news can work very well. Of course, trust is a big issue. If you don't trust Microsoft, give Findory News [findory.com] or Memigo [memigo.com] a try.
Deja-vu (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Deja-vu (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Deja-vu (Score:3, Funny)
Microsoft isn't ripping anyone off any more than Google is.
Re:Deja-vu (Score:2)
It's like trying to compare the "links" page on Joe Blow's homepage to Google's search engine.
Re:Deja-vu (Score:3, Funny)
New web address for newsbot (Score:3, Funny)
We tell you what's going on, and you will believe...
Re:Deja-vu (Score:2)
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Great.... (Score:2, Interesting)
One People
One Nexus
I can't wait to see how they 're-write' links and searches
to 'enhance' your experience.
Re:Great.... (Score:2)
One People
One Nexus
Oh, they do sound more and more like the borg every day.
It's about time (Score:5, Funny)
anti-Microsoft stories.
Re:It's about time (Score:2, Interesting)
Why is it... (Score:2, Funny)
I'm waiting for the day that Microsoft announces that they are buying back all their stock just so they can do another IPO to be like Google!
Re:Why is it... (Score:2)
Hmm.. I wonder how much Google stock Microsoft will buy...
Re:Why is it... (Score:2)
Microsoft's goal isn't to beat Google by offering the best software. Instead they will try to simply drown Google by flooding the field of competition until everyone is loosing money. They'll do it with the power of Windows and pre-installed IE. So since M
Re:Why is it... (Score:2)
By opening new markets and thus growing revenue and perhaps even p
Next - Embedded in Longhorn (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Next - Embedded in Longhorn (Score:2, Insightful)
You'll be able to see the headlines of selected (in the bad sense) newspapers, and the newsfeeds of your favourite webpages. No incentive to go to the webpages, no incentive to go similar services (news.google.com), everybody plummeting (no ads revenue), but microsoft and friends. And then their friends will start to require subscription, after
Will we see a bias? (Score:5, Insightful)
I like Google partly for neutrality.
Re:Will we see a bias? Yes. (Score:2)
Re:Will we see a bias? Yes. (Score:2)
Maybe both news engines are biased. (And before you go into "But its actual news!" so is the "why linux isn't ready for the desktop".) Or maybe its the poster who is biased?
Re:Will we see a bias? Yes. (Score:2)
Re:Will we see a bias? (Score:2)
You want the biased news, you go with the FOX. Woof.
4800? (Score:5, Interesting)
I have BBC, NYTimes, a few industry-specific, a few 'for interest' (e.g. Economist, New Scientist, Reason.com), a few for sport and one for UK TV Listings. Maybe a dozen tops and I am one of the most well-informed people I know.
Too much information = too easy to lose the salient stuff.
Re:4800? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:4800? (Score:2)
All the more reason to have Xinhua and Al Jazeera in there, since those guys usually do offer a different slant on the news than the AP and Reuters feeds that everyone else is printing. CNN and BBC also have big enough news teams to cover most things themselves so they're worth looking at too.
Re:4800? (Score:2)
Did you read that in a Jayson Blair article?
Seriously, though, I like Google partly because I'm exposed to more spin variety than I would if I stuck to my favorites. Sometimes I'll even hold my nose and follow a link to Faux News, just to see what I'm not missing.
Click on the "Bourne slays competition" link... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Click on the "Bourne slays competition" link... (Score:2)
Re:Click on the "Bourne slays competition" link... (Score:2)
cleary still in beta...
Re:Click on the "Bourne slays competition" link... (Score:2)
Aren't all of Trek's frames made in China? Shouldn't The POTUSA be riding something domestic?
Very Strange (Score:4, Funny)
Something about a conflict, dumping physical memory, and then the browser went all blue and restarted. Strange, I've never seen anything like it.
"Most Popular Articles"... (Score:4, Funny)
Let's give MSN's newest beta a warm sendoff...
I see the slashbots have already affected it... (Score:2)
So how could they do this... (Score:3, Interesting)
Without breaking copyright law? Are they really going to license content from every single site? Or will the Feds bust [sg1archive.com] them like Adam McGaughey?
Re:So how could they do this... (Score:4, Informative)
Imagine the precedent if they did. It would totally destroy the search engine industry (which is basically all this is).
Google news isn't entirely original either (Score:5, Insightful)
google came and did it better..
Now MSN is throwing its hat in the ring. AOL will provide a web page with news/ other stuff based on what you want to see which is oddly good (It shows movies playing at the closest movie theaters..)
There a probably lots of others I'm missing.
Competetion is good. Hopefully everyone competes and makes theses sites better.
Win Win Win...
Re:Google news isn't entirely original either (Score:2)
Not AGAIN... another COPIED innovation! (Score:3, Insightful)
Saw That Coming (Score:2)
Google News is beta too... (Score:3, Informative)
The MS one is too busy, hard to follow. Whereas the Google one is as clean as can be expected for a screen with so much information and so many links.
So let me get this straight. Which beta is better? Do we really need a slashdot poll to know that answer? Didn't think so...
The more things change... (Score:2)
Re:The more things change... (Score:2)
Better wording for story (Score:2)
This is a bit dubious (Score:2)
You got to get the links right!! (Score:2)
Current headlines... (Score:5, Funny)
Macs turn people gay.
Office XP: Best Software Ever!
Internet Explorer Holes Largley Fiction
Bill Gates Lands on Moon
Dennis Miller Funniest Man Ever
An Editorial by Clippy©
Better Computing Through Crashes
Spyware Ain't So Bad
Your Computer is Old, Buy a New One with XP Now
How I Caught a Cold from Viral Open Source
Windows Saved my Life!
Jesus Uses XP
MS Wins Nobel Peace Prize
Service Pack Two Will Cure Impotence
Child Killed by Linux Installer
etc
Re:Current headlines... (Score:2)
Openminded... (Score:2)
Looking at the two sites ... (Score:5, Informative)
... all I can say is "HA HA HA HA HA!"
See for your [google.com] self [msn.com]. If you can read anything past the ugly blue-black-and-white font, you're a braver man than I.
Google news stories seem more interesting as well. MSNBC basically has a lot of US-related tabloid articles, while Google has some real news. An example:
World news according to MSNBC:
In contrast, Google has:
Also, Google allows you to go to country [google.com] specific [google.com] news [google.com] feeds [google.com]. I'm sorry, but MSN is going to have to do much better than this to steal my clicks. And before you argue that it's still beta, Google News had much better functionality [archive.org] than this before it first appeared [archive.org] on the Google front page.
Little experiment (Score:5, Informative)
Opinion: Why Linux isn't ready for the Desktop
Vulns: Linux Kernel Unspecified Local Denial of Service Vulnerability
Vulns: Linux Kernel Floating Point Register Contents Leak Vulnerability
Vulns: Linux VServer Project ProcFS Weak Sharing Permissions Vulnerability
Vulns: Apache mod_userdir Module Information Disclosure Vulnerability
How Microsoft Can Embrace Linux
I love biased news source. So here I'm.
Re:Little experiment (Score:2)
Me too! Thats why I love slashdot!
Re:Little experiment (Score:2)
Linux gaining steam in China
ITV switches on to Linux
Seagate and Linspire, Inc. Exclusively Bring Linspire Linux OS to Latin America
Susquehanna International Group Selects Reuters Trader (small mention of Linux as an added technology used)
Linux-based Nitix serves the works
The Linux desktop readyness article is actually from osnews.com, which is not overly biased against Linux. The 'How Microsoft Could Embrace Linux' is very p
Re:Little experiment (Score:2)
Hello, biased news source. A quick search for Linux [slashdot.org] gives (first five hits, in order):
An article describing the adoption of Linux in China,
News about a television station considering a switch to Linux,
A supermarket chain testing a new Linux-based point-of-sale system,
Seagate and Linspire bringing Linux to South America,
A financial company selecting a Linux-based trading solution, citing 'quality and flexibility'.
Biased indeed....
I don't get it (Score:2, Interesting)
Done before (Score:2)
So, maybe Google News is the copy...
Quick observations. (Score:5, Interesting)
Finally, this statement is somewhat disturbing.
"Newsbot (beta) responds to your reading preferences. Clicking on articles determines what we base your recommendations on."
MSNBC does go out of its way to label AP wire service stories as such, which is a nice touch-- I really don't need to read the same story 700 times.
However, google does print the headlines of stories from three sources for each news item, which is more useful that a simple "Also covered in Sun, Herald-Tribune, and ABC". Speaking of which, is that the Chicago Sun, International Herald Tribune, and American Broadcasting Company? Or is it The Sun, Southwest Florida Herald Tribune, and Australian Broadcasting Company?
Re:Quick observations. (Score:3, Interesting)
I find this disturbing too, though probably not for the same reasons as you do.
I could care less if the site uses my browsing history to determine what I like and don't like -- it's better for them and for me if they can target ads well enough that I don't see ads for things I wouldn't buy.
The reason I don't like the idea is that because the importance of news should not be based o
Re:Quick observations. (Score:2)
ewww! (Score:2)
It's all so... cluttered.
That's my first reaction; I was expecting better, considering the resources they have.
No opinion on the content yet.
Territories? (Score:2)
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Need to clean my glasses (Score:3, Funny)
Microsoft plans new aggravator..
Made perfect sense to me at the time... I was just surprised that they'd put that in a press release.
Too little, too late. How about some innovation? (Score:3, Informative)
While we're waiting, why not try newsmap [marumushi.com], which does some interesting things with Google's news feed.
Interesting Headlines... (Score:5, Funny)
Emphasis on 3rd line added by me....
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News Aggravator? (Score:2)
Did anyone else read this as "Microsoft Plans News Aggravator"
-kgj
Positive angle (Score:2)
The graphical layout needs work and the front page seemed to be filled with US centric stories.
Right, I've seen enough, back to buying the local papers.
MS announces Dotdotbackslash (Score:5, Funny)
Slogan: "News for PHBs--Words that Buzz"
HTML Source (Score:2)
Doesn't look real Microsoft like.
More stylesheeting, and more XML-like than normal (though still missing a doctype). Freaky.
Perhaps outsourcing is making Microsoft move like tar (rather than a rock) towards web-standards?
the beta of this has been up for some time (Score:4, Informative)
Huh (Score:2)
Uh, gee... (Score:2)
Go to this MSN thing, what do you get..?
Re:horrible (Score:5, Funny)
Let's see...
An MS-bashing post.
On Slashdot.
Castigating MS for stealing ideas.
How original!
Re:horrible (Score:2)
Micrsoft, 9/10s of the time, has crap versions of there product for the first 1 or 2 releases... They don't rewrite, they just keep selling and keep improving... Look at Office. It wasn't great(read, all that usable) in its early version, but they kept revising it and eventually it gained the critical mass... Windows, first 3(!) versions of Windows shouldn't have been released to the public, but 3.
Re:I can imagine the programming... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Ahh, why not. It's Tuesday. (Score:5, Insightful)
Absolutely. But for you to use a word that is not used in America (technically the United States of America - just calling it America is kind of ignorant) is sort of a faux pas on your part. It is a British word, so why would you use it when composing a post towards Americans? It doesn't show that you have a better vocabulary, just a different one. Whooptie doo.
The fact that you spent so long replying says it all, really. You just can't accept that there are major flaws in your country. You're told at school that America is great, the govt. tells you that America is great, and you want to believe that America is great.
And how would you know what they tell us in school? I can accept the flaws of my country, but it sounds like *someone* may be a little jealous. Otherwise, why would you spend the time verbally attacking the USA? Upset that you can't win a Tour de France?
Well, you need a change. Go and live in Switzerland or Sweden for five years, and take note of the high standard of living, low crime rate, intelligent people and general good quality of society. THEN make your opinion up about America.
Umm, that would give me a better opinion of Switzerland or Sweden, not the USA. (oops, there is your faux pas again) Perhaps you should come live here for 5 years in order to get a more accurate opinion of this country.
Re:Digester (Score:2)