Yellow Tab Hits RC3 45
*no comment* writes "The Carriers of the BeOS torch YellowTab, has hit RC3 in their latest update to what might have been BeOS 6. This runs at about $99 ($10 upgrade when final version is release), and has a long list of features, such as the included Gobe office suite. Don't forget to check out the recently updated screenshots."
Here's to the future, I hope. (Score:2, Interesting)
As it is, you're lucky to find a Mac title or two in some establishments, and occasionally can find a shelf or area devoted to it.
Be, however, seems to be missing from just about any shelf anywhere.
What would it take to make this change?
99 Euros (Score:3, Funny)
Re:99 Euros (Score:2)
Re:99 Euros (Score:1)
Euro = 119.589 USD
United States Dollars
1 EUR = 1.20797 USD 1 USD = 0.827836 EUR
That value of the dollar has been falling.
Re:99 Euros (Score:2)
Thus 80 some-odd euros equals roughtly $102
Re:99 Euros (Score:2, Funny)
*crawls under nearest rock*
Re:99 Euros (Score:2)
Dang, the
Re:99 Euros (Score:1)
The 20 GB iPod costs 449 in euros and $399 in dollars.
No fair!
Cool (Score:4, Interesting)
For all the folks who were chanting for OS X on the PC, this might be the closest thing.
But seriously. I remember about 2 years ago, installing and running the last release of BeOS (the one which happily coexisted with win98).
There's something VERY cool about a modern operating system which boots to the desktop in 5 seconds. This was on an Athlon 750 w/ 128mb RAM.
Of course, there were a few hitches along the way. Namely, the networking support. I was on dial-up at the time, and there was a bug in the CHAP authentication thingy in BeOS. It eventually led me to ditch the OS, but it will always remain in my heart as the coolest OS i'd ever used. The GUI was clean and simple, it had all of the 'good bits' of the Mac UI in it. It beat the heck out of Mac OS and Win9x at the time. Linux wasn't even an option at the time due to the ridiculous complexity (although I did nuke the Be partition* to install Debian which was even more short-lived then Be)
*And the windows partition. And the backup partition. And all of my files. Curse you buggy Debian Fdisk frontend!
Any idea why we haven't seen more software ported to Be? Is it not port-friendly or something?
Re:Cool (Score:1)
I think its that classic "nobody uses it" situation. Those who do use BeOS are the ones doing all the porting already
Re:Cool (Score:1)
I am not so sure. OS X was an Unix from start, and with each version, libraries for simplifying the port of Unix applications are added, so most Unix ports can compile directly or with minimal changes. Plus OS X has to two APIs that were used to build programs at some time, Carbon (classical Macintosh applications) and Cocoa (Next step applications).
From what I gathered, BeOS has Posix support and that's it.
Re:Cool (Score:2)
Here we go again! (Score:4, Insightful)
Yup, that's the BeOS spirit, all right. Some extremely commendable technical accomplishment, and just too damn expensive to give a serious tryout without making a serious upfront investment.
Re:Here we go again! (Score:5, Insightful)
This sounded interesting, until I saw their pricing practices.
Re:Here we go again! (Score:1)
Re:Here we go again! (Score:2)
Be was a great idea (Score:2, Interesting)
Be was a great idea when it came out and I believe the core of it is still an excellent idea. I used it back in the day as a demo and to do some light video and audio editing. Nothing could beat it for how smoothly the OS dealt with multiple audio and video tracks. Nothing I've seen (well, played with anyway) can beat it today on a x86 platform. One of my demos when I was still teaching was to bring up 16 individual video tracks and have them all playing on the same screen, at the same time (minus audio b
Re:Be was a great idea (Score:2)
Windows replacement? (Score:5, Insightful)
What about BeOS/et. al? Can I run all that GNU software? Is there a windows emulator so I can be 100% happy and still get to use Winamp5 and Trillian Pro (without which I CANNOT LIVE
Please, someone, say yes; until OS X is available for x86, BeOS seems like the most useable thing going...
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Re:Windows replacement? (Score:4, Insightful)
This is BeOS, not Windows. You don't run Winamp5 for Windows on a machine that doesn't have Windows installed. Why do you need "winamp5" specifically, when player X is just as capable? Because it is different, you don't want to change? Then why leave Windows for a new OS.
When you leave Windows and migrate to a new OS, things change. You find replacement applications, software and utilities to fill the holes you have. You don't get to keep everything Windows, and pick and choose what you don't want. Life doesn't work like that, and Zeta, Linux and Mac should not cater to that market. People like that don't want to switch, because they don't want to leave Windows.
Re:Windows replacement? (Score:3, Interesting)
Wine assumes posix and to a lesser extent X. BeOS is partially posix and totally not X.
Getting wine working on BeOS would likely require some work on both wine and BeOS.
More info:
Re:Windows replacement? (Score:2)
Add a few bits of software here and there to replace Explorer and Outlook Express and it's like having a whole new OS that can run all my current software.
Re:Windows replacement? (Score:4, Insightful)
Not that I actually believe you. What does the user interface in Windows do, that KDE can't? Not much. Nothing that I can remember. But please remind me.
(Writing this from OSX, which is good, but lacked some important things that I could do easily in KDE, before Panther came with Exposé.)
Re:Windows replacement? (Score:2)
I want an OS that I can use to get work done AND watch movies and listen to MP3s and browse teh intarweb. Unfortunately, I find Linux to be exemplary for the former purpose, and horrid for the latter. Contrarily, Windows XP is just the opposite. This, admittedly, has little to do with the actual OS in question - it's more about the applications available
Re:Windows replacement? (Score:1)
Re:Windows replacement? (Score:2)
The user interface in Windows is consistent! That's the difference!
Re:Windows replacement? (Score:1)
The 'problem' is of course worse in Linux, since you also have the inconsistencies between 'legacy' apps like Emacs and vi. You may complain that ctrl-C doesn't work as expec
If only it ran on the BeBox. (Score:1)
Re:If only it ran on the BeBox. (Score:2)
Re:If only it ran on the BeBox. (Score:2, Interesting)
It really ought to be a simple TARGET=BeBox scenario by now.
This uncaring attitude for hardware that is 'old' or 'antiquated' is really a detriment to constructive computing. My BeBox still has lots of life left in it.
You think the Linux kernel shouldn't target 386's? I can still build a
Re:If only it ran on the BeBox. (Score:2)
How's Palm doing? (Score:3, Funny)
I would donate without a second thought to purchase the BeOS for the sake of GPL'ing it. At least then we might see a kernel that's newer than 2001 and a much needed injection of some new features like OpenGL. Once Palm closes its doors, the property will hopefully be cheap enough to do so.
For now, I'd rather use Linux 2.6, Fluxbox, and some accelerated X drivers and think of what might have been.
Re:How's Palm doing? (Score:1, Interesting)
Oy. (Score:2)
Not to mention, the whole thing looks like a mismanaged linux distro now.
Oh well. Long live Be.
Yeah, I bought it. (Score:3, Informative)
Tahya al-Moqawama al-Iraqiya! (Score:1)
Fuck the American imperialists!
The Americans will pay for what they've done in Iraq! Soon the American cities will burn! They will forget 11 September when they see! Tahya al-Moqawama al-Iraqiya! Tahya al-Moqawama al-Iraqiya!!