Weblog System Features Compared 269
prostoalex writes "The question of the best weblogging system out there arises quite often, especially after the new licensing scheme introduced by MovableType. Here's a rather detailed breakdown of currently popular blogging and content management systems. Out of 11 software packages, 10 run on any server with variations of Perl/PHP and MySQL/PostgresSQL, and one requires Windows and .NET Framework. 4 are licensed under GPL, 3 are under BSD. Mark Pilgrim explains why licensing is suddenly important."
Great site & Favs (Score:5, Informative)
Check it out - OpenSourceCMS [opensourcecms.com]
My current favorites:
Mambo [mamboserver.com]
Wordpress [wordpress.org]
E107 [e107.org]
and last but not least Geeklog [geeklog.net]
You Missed the BEST CMS out there (Score:4, Informative)
GeekLog [geeklog.net] is the best and most secure PHP CMS out there.
On top of this it is easy to use and setup.
How you missed GeekLog I will never know.
Site Mirror (Score:2, Informative)
Mirror [t28.net].
Persionally, I like Serendipity - the BSD License is about as permissive as you can get.
phpBB Blog and phpBB Fetch All (Score:4, Informative)
If you run a phpBB forum, you can grab my add-on phpBB Blog [outshine.com] to turn a forum into a blog. Also, I have a beta [outshine.com] available of the next release. I'd love input.
Also, since this is the Open Source world where cooperation is welcomed, I thought I'd mention that phpBB Fetch All [sourceforge.net] is a blog system that I didn't know about when I made phpBB Blog. phpBB Fetch All is superior to my system, although it is also bigger and more complicated. But it sure looks good.
Where's e107? (Score:3, Informative)
LiveJournal (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Great site & Favs (Score:4, Informative)
Re:LiveJournal (Score:2, Informative)
Everything else is taken care of by the LJ servers.
And the interface is so much easier to use.
Also, side-by-side CMS comparison matrix (Score:5, Informative)
WordPress.org (Score:2, Informative)
I didn't like any of them... (Score:2, Informative)
Good timing (Score:4, Informative)
Again, I documented the (rather brief) decision making process here [unto.net].
Wordpress looks good, except the database... (Score:1, Informative)
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Re:You Missed the BEST CMS out there (Score:5, Informative)
slashdot's journal (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Great site & Favs (Score:3, Informative)
xaraya [xaraya.com]
Re:slashdot's journal (Score:2, Informative)
Re:The best blogging "system?" Please. (Score:3, Informative)
1. Select text
2. Click blogging bookmarklet.
3. Add any comments
4. Click the post button
I can't do that with notepad. Of course, I can do it with free software.
Other things that take more work with notepad.
1. Cycling stuff off my front page.
2. Creating archive pages.
3. Creating navigation by topic
4. Keeping a consistent template for all my blog pages
5. Syndicating blog content in RSS and/or other formats.
Re:You Missed the BEST CMS out there (Score:3, Informative)
I don't see a few comments as a serious issue when they are easily dealt with.
Within your config.php there is already the ability to have a speedlimit for comments, so I don't know why you would make a hack for it.
Pivot (Score:4, Informative)
Cheers, Paul
Perfect Timing (Score:5, Informative)
Wouldn't you know it? I just spent much of the weekend converting my site from my own homegrown weblog codebase to pMachine. Here's the new version [pl.atyp.us] (with an entry about the change), and the old version [pl.atyp.us] for comparison. According to the table, b2evolution and WordPress would be equally good fits, perhaps even slightly better because they support assigning an entry to multiple categories like my old code but unlike pMachine Free, but when I tried them all out at opensourceCMS [opensourcecms.com] that really wasn't the case. I strongly recommend that you check out candidates there, because a lot of the small things make a difference. Here are some examples:
These sorts of things, none of which are covered in a mere checklist, really matter when you actually take the plunge. Trying stuff out on opensourcecms is a great first step, but then you should actually download the real thing and really try to run a test version of your own site on it for at least an hour or so, to see if you can truly tweak it to your liking. Only then will you be able to make a decision that will really satisfy you.
Re:LiveJournal (Score:3, Informative)
Keep it simple and stupid (Score:3, Informative)
It has almost no feature listed in this article. People can just write text, and add an optional picture to every text. The comment system is also extremely basic, with even no threading support.
So why is it so popular, moreover there are plenty of featureful competitors?
Probably because it's minimal, so it's trivial to understand. Weblogs are for people who don't want to learn anything, just publish.
And even Blogger is way too complicated for the average user IMHO.
Also, with a weblog, you just write the text and some script will automagically create the code. So why not make the weblogs produce correct, accessible documents ?
The usual complain of web site designers when you talk them about accessibility is "oh, well... too complicated to implement, I prefer Dreamweaver-made HTML".
With a weblog engine, once templates are properly designed, making the documents accessibles to blind users could be trivial. This is, IMHO, the main point of weblogs, CMS, etc.
But out of every weblog software compared in this document, I can see only once that produces accessible, XHTML-conformant pages : bBlog.
Why? Useless features are fun, but it would be nice to also focus on what a weblog could really bring over traditional sites.
Re:what, no mention about Drupal? (Score:3, Informative)
It is a full fledged CMS application. It is also an extensible framework for web applications as well (someone wrote an e-commerce package for it).
Labelling it as a weblog system is too restrictive, though it handles that part pretty well too.
stay away from PHPnuke (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Scoop? Slashcode? (Score:4, Informative)
They're not considered because for personal blogs they are probably more trouble than they're worth. I manage The Oceana Network [oceana.org], a group blog on global efforts to defend the oceans, for my employer, Oceana [oceana.org]. (Disclaimer: the opinions expressed here are mine alone and not those of Oceana, yadda yadda.) The Network is based on Scoop [kuro5hin.org].
For a blog like ours, that handles posts from a large group of authors and that needs to be able to support very long discussions, Scoop is fantastic. Give it an inexpensive Linux/BSD box all to itself and it is a very, very nice and flexible online community platform.
However, if you fit the profile of the typical single-author blog author, installing Scoop probably isn't for you. It's a tricky process, requiring "now edit your httpd.conf"-type steps that are just not realistic to expect from someone on a virtual hosting setup. (Not to say that it can't be done -- just that it's not realistic to expect many people to do it.)
And Scoop's primary benefit -- its very nice moderated comment system -- is wasted on a personal blog, where no post will ever get more than a few comments. (I know that ours doesn't have that many yet either, but we've only been up and running for a couple of weeks... give us time :-) )
For those users, MT, WordPress, etc. are much better solutions -- easier installs, and just enough features to be useful without overcomplicating things.
If your blogging ambitions are grander than a simple personal site, though, Scoop is great -- definitely check it out if you haven't already.
Re:my own? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:how about a blog software that doesn't require (Score:2, Informative)
I've been looking for a piece of blogging software that doesn't require a SQL server. I've been using MovableType, storing its data in a BerkleyDB file. However, I'd like to move away from MovableType (for licensing issues, as well as usability issues)
Bloxsom [blosxom.com] and Blojsom [sourceforge.net] both use the filesystem to store blog entries, and require no database.
Re:my own? (Score:4, Informative)
snipsnap (Score:3, Informative)
Re:GPL misconception (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Perfect Timing (Score:2, Informative)
Also note that a new version of WordPress was just released over the weekend [wordpress.org]. This version is much nicer than the old version, which is probably what was previewable on opensourcecms.
Check it out.
It's not as bad as you suggest (Score:2, Informative)
There are a few missing S2 layouts and some of the more obscure community features (LiveJournal Singles, for example) aren't included. All the webloggy-stuff is in there.
It won't run under mod_perl 2.0 right now because they changed some of the interfaces, but that will probably be addressed at some point.
Other Free/Open Java blogging software and sites (Score:3, Informative)
While you're plugging Java based blogging software, don't forget the Roller Weblogger [rollerweblogger.org], which runs JRoller [jroller.com] and, since the article includes blosxom [blosxom.com], people should also be aware of blojsom [blojsom.com], which is a Java based clone of blosxom. Naturally, there are others out there too.
P.S. Since the original post didn't provide a direct link, here's one for the home page of SnipSnap [snipsnap.org].
Re:Great site & Favs (Score:3, Informative)
Re:my own? (Score:4, Informative)
Yeah, twenty years ago, in C [sf.net]. Some of the original [conferencing.co.uk] sites [mix.ne.jp] have updated the software a bit, but the "classic" software is still in use. [nlzero.com] (I have done some work [webcosy.com] on modernizing the technology, but that got put on the back burner -- I may start it up again.)
(Some might argue that CoSy wasn't really blogging software. Well, aside from the obvious agreement that the web didn't exist then, so by definition it couldn't have been, there were several Big Names who used Byte Magazine's site (BIX) as just such -- Jerry Pournelle, for example.)
Re:Where's e107? (Score:3, Informative)
It doesnt validate, and it's not just comments that fail validation (which I could half understand) but the actual page structure in places.