Miyazaki Region 1 DVDs at Last? 217
PinkStainlessTail writes " Ain't It Cool has a "story" (or baseless rumor, it is AIC after all) claiming that Miyazaki's SPIRITED AWAY, CASTLE IN THE SKY (aka LAPUTA), and KIKI'S DELIVERY SERVICE will be released on 2 disc region 1 DVD sets from Disney in April of this year. The original story comes from comic artist Steve Bissette's message board. " Here's hopin'
About time! (Score:2)
Anyone who hasn't seen Castle in the Sky will be in for a treat--it has some of the most AMAZING hand-drawn backgrounds you've ever seen.
NAUSICAA!!!! (Score:1, Informative)
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Re:NAUSICAA!!!! (Score:1)
Region 1? (Score:1)
Re:Region 1? (Score:2, Interesting)
When you take one of these DVDs and play it on an american TV, it looks pink. best to wait for our own domestic release.
Re:Region 1? (Score:1)
except when you blink... cuz you know... you've been glued to the tv for a while now....
then you start seeing these pink dots everywhere too..
Re:Region 1? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Region 1? (Score:1)
You can (Score:2)
I'm still waiting for the region 1 DVD though. I'm just afraid it will also have the infamous red tint [slashdot.org] that everyone got in Japan.
Re:You can (Score:3, Informative)
When I ordered Spirited Away, I got an email from cdjapan telling me that some people reported a red tint. However, they assured me that the transfer was approved by Studio Ghibli, and it looked as intended.
I forgot about it until I watched the movie, and reread the mail. Then I checked the movie again, and saw no sign of any red tint. Maybe it was there, but to me the movie looked as I supposed was intended.
Re:You can (Score:2, Interesting)
Since many of my friends are AV freaks, they generally make sure that their equipment is calibrated correctly, so things like this definitely show.
Re:You can (Score:2)
Also, the French DVD comes with English Dubtitles of the English language track, not literal translated subtitles of the Japanese language track.
I, btw, own the French DVD and am very happy with it. The Dubtitles are fine with me.
Sorry, sir, it's Tuesday. (Score:3, Funny)
- A.P.
DVD Regions (Score:5, Informative)
Man do I feel stupid. I had some idea about DVD Regions when I got my player a year or so ago, but didn't give it much thought. This article forced me to go look-up a few sites that offered information on exactly what the mention of DVD Regions in the
Sometimes
Re:DVD Regions (Score:1)
Re:An honest question (Score:1)
Re:DVD Regions (Score:2)
Sorry, I don't think that makes any sense. If the movie studio believes that the DVD will not sell without promotion, what could possibly be the harm in releasing it world wide? Even after releasing world wide, there would be no barrier to them promoting it, (and getting step 5: PROFIT!,) one country at a time.
The reason that makes the most sense to me is that different regions have different buying power. The movie studios want to charge a higher price for the exact same product in coutries where they can. By denying individuals the right to sell goods they have legally purchased through technical means, they can keep a monopoly on their product even from resellers of their product.
Sweet (Score:1)
Re:Sweet (Score:1)
Re:Sweet (Score:4, Informative)
In short, there may yet be cause to worry if Disney doesn't feel that we need Japanese audio on these DVDs...
I got Totoro for Christmas (Score:1)
As for Kiki, I prefer the Japanese. I'm not a big fan of movie or television stars performing the voices for animated characters. Unless the actor is able to actually enhance a character with their voice, I don't usually like it. Kelsey Grammer as Sideshow Bob is an example of an actor enhancing an animated character.
Spirited Away (Score:1)
Re:Spirited Away (Score:1)
I hope it is better that the Totoro release (Score:5, Interesting)
I certainly hope that the DVD release is better that the terrible Fox DVD release of My Neighbor Totoro, which was a pan-and-scan version with no Japanese language track or extras.
If Disney are releasing it directly, then there is some chance they might do a good job, but I'm certainly not preordering anything until the details are clear...
Re:I hope it is better that the Totoro release (Score:1)
Re:I hope it is better that the Totoro release (Score:5, Informative)
I read this around the time Princess Mononoke [imdb.com] came out, but I'm sure the same applies. It's why Disney (through Miramax) was willing to release a 2:20 animated film, instead of their usual 1:25-- it was that or nothing. (And that's why nothing could be done about Mononoke's glacial pacing, but that's opinion, I suppose.)
As for the language tracks, there was some hubbub when it came to the Mononoke DVD-- Disney was originally going to release it with only the English language dub, but there was considerable fan outcry (spearheaded by the folks at AICN [aintitcool.com], I believe), and so the disc was delayed so they could get language clearances and have both versions.
Personally, I enjoyed Spirited Away [imdb.com] much, much more than Mononoke, and would look forward to a comparably well-done release, with widescreen, both language options, etc. Hopefully Disney's learned their lesson-- that Miyazaki's fan base can be downright ornery in their devotion, and will demand quality.
Re:I hope it is better that the Totoro release (Score:2)
And boy am I glad they did. While the english version is quite good (except for the miscast Gillian Anderson), I still prefer original dialogue with subtitles.
I desperately want to get a dual-language version of Totoro (and everything else by Miyazaki) -- dubbed for my 2 year old, subtitled for me & my wife. I wonder whether the lack of such a release is due to laziness/bureaucracy at Disney, or re-export worries at Ghibli?
Re:I hope it is better that the Totoro release (Score:2)
(And I've tried to help make up for the extras it didn't have by recording my own DVDTracks mp3 commentary [dvdtracks.com] for it.
I really didn't expect much good out of the Totoro DVD. It was just a hasty pump-and-dump of the one Miyazaki movie they had onto DVD just as they had it in order to capitalize...just like all those generic animated fairy tale tapes that come out right at the same time as a Disney movie. Even Fox's laserdisc of it way back when was pan and scan...clearly, that's all they had to work with. On the bright side, at least the price is low...
Re:I hope it is better that the Totoro release (Score:2)
I'm curious if the hong kong (?pirated?) version in the box set of all Myazaki films is better than the Fox release.
I don't know how good the subtitles are, but I do know that the audio is Japanese language only.
Rocky J. Squirrel
well, lookie here... (Score:5, Funny)
Now if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.
Not American? (Score:5, Informative)
Note: even though they're region 2, they're also NTSC, so you'll need compatible equipment. That's not a problem for Americans with multi-region players, though.
The films are in Japanese with optional english sub and dub, and the second disk is all in Japanese.
In case you're interested, I'm a big fan of cdjapan, especially now that the exchange rates are going my way. They're extremely efficient at getting the stuff out, and my first stop for those hard-to-find films that aren't generally available elsewhere.
Re:Not American? (Score:2)
(My first accepted story. Verily, w00t.)
Re:Not American? (Score:1)
Re:Not American? (Score:2, Interesting)
It could be a good start (Score:2)
Someone bought her the Fox copy of Totoro a few months ago on DVD, thinking it would be a good replacement for the older VHS she got when she turned 1. She put the DVD in the player, turned it on, and within 5 minutes she came up to me and said, "Daddy, this movie is wrong." (the English voices were godawful)
If this is true, and she can get these movies on DVD with Region 1, they had better have the original voice tracks on them.
Re:It could be a good start (Score:2)
Nausicaa.net (Score:5, Informative)
Miyazaki's stuff is pure genious. He is, without a doubt, one of the greatest directors that ever lived. This is good for everyone, not just anime fans.
Ive already imported all these movies, and I will probably wind up buying the r1s as well. I sure hope that they have all the extras that were on the japanese dvds. Tons of cool stuff on the dual disk sets.
Disney and Miyazaki (Score:2)
You're totally right! Given the total consideration that Disney has shown to Miyazaki during every step of this project and the timely manner in which they have conducted themselves, i would _never_ imagine Disney failing to keep everyone fully updated as to what their plans are.
Re:Nausicaa.net (Score:1)
Well, it was posted after I made this comment here on slashdot
Hopefully theyll be able to pull their disney sources and get a confirmation. Good stuff.
These already exist (Score:5, Informative)
Re:These already exist (Score:1)
I'd be very surprised if the menus were indeed in Japanese, as Anime Cartoon only puts out Chinese bootlegs in Hong Kong. They usually include English and Chinese subtitles, and either the Japanese audio or the English audio.
Re:These already exist (Score:2)
You'll be glad to know that neither Hayao Miyazaki nor anyone else at Studio Ghibli received a single yen from your purchase of that bootleg.
RTFM [nausicaa.net]:Re:These already exist (Score:2)
Re:These already exist (Score:5, Informative)
What you are holding in your hands are bootleg copies, sir.
Here is a link to the pirate anime FAQ:
http://www.digital.anime.org.uk/piratefaq.html [anime.org.uk]
Re:These are bootlegs (Score:2)
I'm impatient for a legit release, but until then, these bootleg copies of Laputa and Totoro will have to do.
Bastages! (Score:2)
How dare you enjoy these masterworks when:
1. this is probably the only way you can get some of these films, at least the only way you'll find them in japanese with english subtitles
2. you may not be able to afford to buy all of the official copies
the
It's much easier to mod me down than to post an intelligent reply
Rocky J Squirrel
I agree (Score:2)
The whole "region coding" thing is the biggest farce. It made sense that once upon a time there were different formats for the different regions -- because different standards were adopted for TV broadcasts. Region Coding is a (possibly illegal) added layer of technological obscurity designed to HINDER our rights.
But, back to bootlegging. Once upon a time, my roommates found this audio tape. We have no idea where it came from. We loved it, and listened to it over and over again. Eventually we were able to find out who the band was and miraculously one roommate had a friend who collected vinyl, and he just happened to have the album. So we bought it, secondhand (or maybe third or fourth who knows).
Then we burned CDs of the vinyl because the tape was getting worn out, and now we all live in different parts of the country anyway. In fact I just burned another copy over the holidays (a copy of the copy) because my old roommate stole my last one...
I have looked for this album in used CD shops, on Ebay, wherever. It is simply not available. While I might technically be commiting a crime by copying the original, I really don't see what else a consumer is supposed to do. Go without a great record because nobody will sell it to me?
All you people who point accusing fingers at people who are bootlegging need to consider where your blind allegiance is taking us. So far it's given us artificial and abritrary Region Coding, the DMCA, and it's upgraded copyright violation from a civil crime in which harm had to be demonstrated to a federal felony where no harm needs to be shown and prosecution cost is paid with your tax dollars. Next stop is TCPA and Palladium. Care to take your heads out of your asses now?
Re:I agree (Score:2)
Totoro? (Score:1)
Been entranced by that title ever since I saw a still from it at the Cartoon Art Museum [cartoonart.org].
Re:Totoro? (Score:2)
Re:Totoro? (Score:1)
Re:Totoro? (Score:2)
I would also reiterate that the lack of all these things isn't Fox's fault: it's just that they bought the rights to the dubbed, full-frame version of the movie through 2003, and nothing else. So it'll be at least a year before the Disney version, with all those extras, is available.
Got it already.. (Score:1)
Re:Got it already.. (Score:2, Informative)
Your copy is a bootlegm obviously so at that price.
Re:Got it already.. (Score:2)
Operation currently prohibited by disc! (Score:2, Interesting)
Are you a geek or not? (Score:1)
THIS JUST IN: Possible Release Dates! (Score:5, Informative)
time for a little flamebait :-P (Score:1)
Ahh... I understand, in America, the land of the free, there are no region-free DVD-players available? You have the corporations dictating you instead of politicians.
Studio Ghibli Bundle Available in US (Score:2, Interesting)
They are listed as 'All code, Region Free' on the website. The only problem I've had is that the "Spirited Away" discs do not play on my PC's DVD drive (a pioneer drive). 'Spirited Away" does play in my Playstation 2. So take that for what it's worth.
I've enjoyed every movie so far and I'm half way throught the set.
Re:Studio Ghibli Bundle Available in US (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Studio Ghibli Bundle Available in US (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/video/answers.ht
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The vast majority of Studio Ghibli products released in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, and other southeast Asian countries are not licensed. These locations are notorious for their lax (or non-existent) enforcement of copyright laws, so be very careful when purchasing any video product manufactured or sold in this area.
There have also been numerous reports of various Studio Ghibli DVDs manufactured in Hong Kong or Taiwan being sold at stores, online shops, or on Internet auctions. As far as we have been able to determine, these are pirated copies. To our knowledge, only IVL [intercontinental.com.hk] in Hong Kong and Buena Vista Home Entertainment [bvi.com.tw] in Taiwan sell authorized or licensed Studio Ghibli videos/DVDs. Visit the Pirate Anime FAQ [anime.org.uk] for more information on spotting bootlegged items.
The DVD set from an outfit called "Anime Cartoon International" (now known as "Manga International", not to be confused with "Manga Entertainment") is a definite bootleg. The following is from Steven Alpert, the Managing Director at Studio Ghibli International Distribution:
We have NOT licensed to anyone called Anime Cartoon in Hong Kong, and these sets must be pirated. We have a reputable licensee in Hong Kong who would certainly not be involved in this.I will be in touch with our attorneys to see what we can do to get the sales of these on eBay stopped, and I would imagine Disney will want to do the same.
Thanks and best regards,
Steve
To report the sale/auction/distribution of pirated material, contact:
Joe Woodall
Corporate Legal Department
The Walt Disney Company
Burbank, CA 91521-0662
joe.woodall@disney.com
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Er... (Score:1)
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Re:Er... (Score:2)
Nope (well, I can't speak for the editor...). But the codes aren't going away, because only a tiny subset of all DVD buyers care about them. There's bigger digital rights issues to fry at this point, since going around these restrictions is trivial for those who are interested in doing so. However in this case a region free player is also an imperfect solution because of import prices, imperfect subbing, and unsubbed/dubbed extras. A release aimed at the English speaking fan is the solution, but that carries region coding baggage.
Amazon.com has them on preorder (Score:3, Informative)
Actually...
Spirited Away [amazon.com]
Kiki's Delivery Service [amazon.com]
Castle in the Sky [amazon.com]
Re:Amazon.com has them on preorder (Score:2)
In all three of them, after the title of the disc, there is a paragraph that starts with: "Availability: NOT YET RELEASED: The studio is currently not producing this title on DVD...".
So, you just proved their point...
Availability (Score:2)
Re:Availability (Score:1)
Someone else got "scammed".
You poor sods! (Score:2)
J.
News from AIC? Right... (Score:1)
So what? (Score:2)
Region Code Bypass for Software DVD Players (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.inmatrix.com/genie/
Further evidence... (Score:2)
Miyazaki (Score:1)
The dub is good for once (Score:2)
It's the best dub done yet and certainly good enough that you can proudly show the movie to people who don't like subtitles.
Rocky J. Squirrel
regions (Score:5, Insightful)
I hate their arguement that regions are needed to allow movies to be released in theaters before you can buy them. What I hate about the arguement is what about old movies?
Why is Gone With The Wind: DVD Deluxe Collector Box Set (1939) a region 1 dvd? They've had 64 years to play it in every country.
Of course their other arguement is regions protect prices. Region 1 dvds cost more. Well, if they are only going to release the DVD in one region anyway, why not put it in Region 0? If there's not enough of a market in other regions, then release it in region 0 and pool everyone together.
sorry, I'm just annoyed by all the region stuff....
Remove region encoding (Score:2, Interesting)
Hack your DVD (Score:2, Informative)
I use the word 'hack' very liberally. Many times, it's just a few buttons on the remote.
While you're at it, desable Macrovision, and if you're in the market to buy a DVD player, use that site so that you buy a DVD player that plays SVCD's... thus allowing you to skip the whole buying DVD's-to-replace your VHS collection.
Yes, I totally believe this (Score:2)
Feedback loop... (Score:2)
Having this story on the same page as the latest MPAA and RIAA efforts is illustrative. The outrage only lasts until the next fasionable release.
Xix.
Yet more confirmation (Score:2)
Right Stuf confirms Miyazaki DVDs (04:45 PM EST): While no features have yet been delivered to retailers (a standard practice for Disney; announce title, then a few weeks later provide details), Shawne Kleckner over at Right Stuf has confirmed that both VHS and DVD versions of Spirited Away, Kiki's Delivery Service and Castle in the Sky are due out in region one on 04/17/2003.
If you wait for DVD's for your region (Score:2)
Then the terror-, sorry, the MPAA - have already won.
Not such a big issue here (languages and all) but something to bear in mind. I live in Region 2 (as decreed by the DVD powers), but I buy almost all of my disks as Region 1 (or when possible, region 0 or unregioned) and have them posted from Hong Kong, as soon as possible. The message: market segmentation isn't going to work any more. Stick to global release schedules, you chiselling bastards.
Re:Teehee (Score:2, Insightful)
Which means that neither Miyazaki nor Studio Ghibli recieved any compensation for their efforts.
Thank you for being a hindrance.
Re:Teehee (Score:1)
I need to know! (Score:2)
I'm always interested in finding good translations...
I'm especially interested in the Myazaki box set (that has ALL of the movies except "Sprited Away").
As far as I know, that's only available from the Hong Kong pirates and probably has some movies that are not available anywhere else.
Rocky J. Squirrel
Re:Teehee (Score:4, Insightful)
Be careful not to hurt yourself on the way down from your high horse.
It would be a hindrance to buy bootlegs if someone was offering a legit product. Since Disney/Ghibli are not giving me a legal way to get them, I don't think I'm hurting them in getting bootlegs. If anything, I'm proveng them there's demand fot the movies and prompting them to release them.
I bet you are also against abandonware and MAME.
Re:Teehee (Score:2)
You are indeed a hindrance, in that you support paying money to people who don't deserve it, while at the same time not paying at all the people who created the media for you. This discourages creativity and greatly encourages stealing. Regardless of any other issue, it is also much more morally wrong than downloading media for free (which at least does not encourage bootleggers).
Re:Teehee (Score:2)
Have I hurted Disney or Miyazaki? No. I can't give them my money, even tough I want to, but they won't offer their merchandise. When (and if) Disney releases a Totoro DVD, I will certainly buy it (if nothing else, for the better quality). End result to Disney: The same. End result to me: Access to a masterpiece. Everyone wins (particularly my son, who otherwise would have had no access to one of cinema's great movies until Disney had seen it fit, probably well past the age when it is most magical).
Oh, and just so you can have a full hissy fit, I intend to furter break Disney's copyright by "altering their work without written permission". Explicitally, I intend to sub it to Spanish, so my wife can enjoy it too. Why? Because I have searched high and low for a Spanish sub and nobody sells it, not in America, not in Europe and not in Japan. So, I'm doing it myself. I guess that is also "morally wrong".
This discourages creativity and greatly encourages stealing.
Please, refrain from FUD. It's not called stealing, it's called copyright infringemente, both legally and morally; using loaded words you are only doing the MPAA's dirty work.
And, yeah, it's not piracy either. Go check a dictionary.
Re:Teehee (Score:2)
When you profit from the said creator's work without paying anything to them, you steal. Both legally and morally.
Note that I would not have any problem with you if you downloaded your Totoro copy for free via a filesharing service or whatever (I do that myself). I do have a problem with people trying to profit illegitimately from others' work.
Nor would I have that much of a problem if you had no access to the said free copy via P2P, but I highly suspect that you do. Yes, it's lower quality, and yes, it's probably not available in many different subs or dubs, but this inconvenience pales in comparison with paying quite a lot of money to people who don't deserve it. At least in my eyes.
Oh, and switching to ad hominem mode, I never did use the word "pirate", I never defended Disney (in fact, I hate that company), and I never voiced an opinion on freely distributing modified work such as subs and dubs (I have a 50-CD stack of burned subbed anime, including all of Miyazaki, that I have paid nothing for). Also, I'd like to know what exactly "moral copyright infringement" is supposed to mean.
Dude, I know Miyazaki's work is beautiful, and I know that once you have seen it you will want to share its grace and genius with others. But what you're doing - paying all the wrong people for it - is not cool.
Re:Teehee (Score:2)
Re:Teehee (Score:2)
I don't hate Disney. At least I hope I don't.
They do some objectionable stuff though.
Re:Teehee (Score:3, Interesting)
One, I strongly object to the use of the word "stealing" to refer to illegal copying. It's a loaded word, and its use helps to spread propaganda from the studios. Stealing is taking something and depriving the rightful owner of its use. In fact, I am legally right; if you get arrested for selling illegal copies of movies, you are not charged with robbery, you are charged with copyright infringment.
On the second point, yes, I have access to P2P... on a 56K modem. Ever tried to download a movie that way? Fun it is not. Plus, I don't pay quite a lot of money; 10 bucks will get you a Miyazaki VCD. I kinda agree that "pirates" are leeches, but not a lot more than movie studios execs. Plus, remember, I can give 10 bucks to a so-called "pirate", of which nothing will go to Miyazaki, or I can give 40 to Disney, of which 1-2 will go to Miyazaki (my guess, I can't really tell) and 38-39 to Disney execs. Guess which one I consider the lesser of two evils.
Still, I intend to buy the original as soon as it becomes available. But I absolutely refuse to subject my kid to the whims of a corporation regarding when he can see Totoro. For a movie that has been around for over 10 years not to be available in DVD (particularly such a masterpiece) is a crime.
Again, thanks for your articulate response, and rest assured I meant no ad hominen arguments; I was trying to equate my behavior to others that I consider similar and acceptable. Admitedly, in a somewhat inflamatory manner (this is Slashdot, right?)
Re:Teehee (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Screw Japanese Cartoons (Score:1)
You just go right on thinking that, the rest of us can enjoy some decent entertainment
Re:Screw Japanese Cartoons (Score:1, Informative)
1. More mature. Yes their is porn, but you also have stories that are not meant for children. Meaning that people can die, grow old, kill, blood, really good love stories... etc.
2. Character Development. If you have ever watched a really good anime you find yourself loving or hating certain characters. In one anime I watched the main character died at the endo of it(2 OVAs and 94 episodes later... any guesses).
3. Unbelievable Soundtracks. Cowboy Bebop, Escaflowne, Kenshin, Macross Plus, Lain, Spirited Away, Totoro, Initial D. A lot goes into making the music fit the anime. I can't tell you how much I can recollect on a series just by hearing music from it. Think... the Star Wars use the force music... how that can send shivers down your spine(John Williams is a genious).
4. Funny and Serious. Anime is not restricted to a specific genre at all. They can be funny and then be serious one minute. That makes for some great entertainment.
5. Facial Expressions and Emotions. I already mentioned the character development, but a huge trait of anime is the facial and body expressions. Especially when they have a close up of view of the face.
I am sure that their are others. Blind Ignorance is scary. If you are going to say that something sucks... watch it and make sure.
Re:FUCK YOU DISNEY!!! (Score:1)
Mod parent up - AND SECAM? (Score:2)
Don't the french have these wierd ancient high definition TV's?
Does that effect the resolution/frame rate of the DVD's made for them?
Rocky J. Squirrel