Ig Nobels Awarded 143
prostoalex writes "The definitive study on bellybutton lint, a dog-to-person translation device and an inquiry into what arouses ostriches were recognized at 2002 Ig Nobel awards. The telecast of the event in RealMedia format is available from Harvard University server, there's also an Associated Press story. Ig Nobel awards typically recognize the most dubious contributions to the world of science and research."
what arouses ostriches (Score:4, Funny)
For
a: breeding ostriches
and
b: Don't wear pink in a field full of ostriches, it makes then horny!
Re:what arouses ostriches (Score:1)
Perhaps the affect of wearing "not-ostrich" colored clothing could become the basis of antoher Ig Noble study?
The question is .... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:The question is .... (Score:5, Funny)
Slashdot polls... (Score:1)
Ironic (Score:3, Funny)
Ironic that awards for technologies with dubious benefits are being streamed in RealVideo...
Re:Ironic (Score:1)
Re:Ironic (Score:2, Informative)
Combined with the constant forced updating of client software for no apparent reason (with expiry dates in the software), producting bloatware that sits in your systray, stealing file associations and so on, many people believe that basically they are not a very nice company.
Re:Ironic (Score:1)
Quoting from this page [aluminumstudios.com]: Realnetworks practically invented spyware. They were sued for their privacy violations. They were sued again. Their spying drew the attention of the FTC. By now, the activities of RealDownload are well-known, as are those of RealJukebox. Would you trust a company with this record?
I don't.
Re:Ironic (Score:2)
And that the downloadable archives for those of us (ARGH!) who forgot and missed the live telecast are only being offered for "QuickTime 5"...
(Insert obligatory bitter complaints about the one popular video codec that can't be played outside of Mac and Windows here...)
I wonder if they could be talked into either streaming or archiving in Ogg Theora [theora.org] format starting next year (judging by the good, if incomplete, quality of the existing 1st alpha release, it ought to be ready in plenty of time...)
P.S. Anybody here watch the awards? Did they get a better camera operator and sound technician this year? (Last year, the camera operator stubbornly REFUSED to point the camera at interesting things happening, no matter how relevant. I say REFUSED because I seem to recall that at one point one of the speakers was actually GIVING a slideshow [not to be confused with the semi-random slideshow they are said to have running throughout], and I would have sworn I saw the camera START to swing towards the slides being presented...then stubbornly swing back and stare at the presenter pointing at the slides...also half of the wedding opera was essentially inaudible due to microphone problems...)
Re:Ironic (Score:1)
Re:Ironic (Score:2)
The 2001 archive has the little 'requires quicktime 5' logo on it...Actually, I'll slightly amend my original statement - the only archive of a complete ignobel ceremonty that seems to be available at the moment appears to be quicktime 5 only. The 2000 archive is on another site, and is just plain broken, but appears to have been Real as well. (The links that work seem to be a message saying "This program has expired"...) I haven't yet found any complete videos of years prior to 2000 online.
They DO have an .avi of "Highlights from some older ceremonies [harvard.edu]" but not complete videos, except for some available for purchase (on videotape).
Re:Ironic (Score:5, Funny)
That's *appropriate*.
Re:Ironic (Score:1)
"If we should ever find a Harvard man within our walls,
we'll take him up to the physics lab and amputate his balls.
And if he hollers 'uncle', I'll tell you what we'll do:
we'll fill his ass with broken glass and seal it up with glue."
?sp
RTFA ?? (Score:3, Funny)
Link to 2002 award list (Score:5, Informative)
Imagine . . . (Score:4, Funny)
Imagine a Beo-WOOF! cluster of these.
Dog Talk (Score:2)
Re:Imagine . . . (Score:1)
Re:Imagine . . . (Score:1)
"Woof. Woof. Woof. Woof. Woof. Woof. Woof. Woof. Woof."
The clerk examined the paper and politely told the dog: "There are only nine words here. You could send another 'Woof' for the same price."
"But," the dog replied, "that would make no sense at all."
Re:Imagine . . . (Score:2)
I saw a tech show where they spent some time on this a few weeks ago. I swear, every time they say the name, it sounds like "Bowel-Lingual" to me. In fact, I don't think there's any difference in the pronunciation of the two.
I like to think that I can learn something from everyone, but when it comes down to it, there are just some things I don't want to talk to.
-Puk
[Slightly OT] Intelligent Dogs (Score:5, Interesting)
Many years ago here in the UK, and light hearted popular culture TV magazine "That's Life" had a feature about gifted pets.
This one time, they went to visit a dog that could do maths. His owner would hold up two cards with numbers on them, the dog would add them up, and woof out the answer (3 = 3 woofs etc.) The bloke would then shout out "Well Done!" and the whole nation was amazed.
The presenter appeared to be completely taken in by it, especially after the dog had done 4 sums correctly on the trot.
The bloke had basically trained his dog to woof until he said "Well Done!"
Re:[Slightly OT] Intelligent Dogs (Score:1)
But anyway, as far as magic tricks go, this one was rather clever. When was he outed?
Re:[Slightly OT] Intelligent Dogs (Score:3, Insightful)
Dogs just aren't that smart.
Re:[Slightly OT] Intelligent Dogs (Score:4, Funny)
Re:[Slightly OT] Intelligent Dogs (Score:2)
Re:[Slightly OT] Intelligent Dogs (Score:2)
Re:[Slightly OT] Intelligent Dogs (Score:1)
SNAUSAGES! [heinzpetproducts.com]
Egad, you know /. has fallen when readers can't even spell made-up words correctly...
Re:I cannot believe... (Score:1)
The "Clever Hans" Effect (Score:5, Informative)
The TV example from the parent post is yet another example of the "Clever Hans Effect," similar to the
Feel better knowing that after 10 years?
Re:"Clever Hans" the mathematics horse (Score:5, Informative)
"Clever Hans" (the horse in question) is a classic case...
The trainer really THOUGHT his horse could do mathematics. It took some study to determine what was really going on. What was happening is that after presenting the question, the trainer would unconsciously lean forward in expectation, and as Hans reached the correct number of hoof-taps, would relax slightly. It turned out that Hans was cueing off of the slight changes in posture for when to start and stop tapping. They discovered that Hans couldn't get the correct number if he couldn't see the trainer, and that they could get him to tap out any number they wanted (regardless of the math problem presented) by these slight changes of posture done intentionally.
Other animals (that is, animals other than human beings) may not be as good as we are at abstraction, but they can be pretty darn perceptive...
Re:"Clever Hans" the mathematics horse (Score:1)
Link to the actual awards (Score:5, Informative)
And the winners are... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:And the winners are... (Score:5, Funny)
That..... is what I call humor.
Re:And the winners are... (Score:1)
Direct link to winners ... (Score:3, Informative)
The winners - from the source - are here [improb.com]. I notice one old favorite on there - the periodic table table, which I linked to from my chemistry web site myself. Ahh, literalism ...
Funnier, though, is the pet washing machine. Unfortunately, I can't read the language, but they do have photos ... :)
Re:Direct link to winners ... (Score:3, Informative)
Not 'Dubious' at all. (Score:5, Insightful)
Contrast this to truly dubious science, like that practiced by that Schon guy at Bell Labs who said he could make any material a superconductor, and fudged all his data to prove it. Now that was dubious science.
Experimentation 101 (Score:2)
If the desired output is a linear graph, it is only necessary to obtain two empirical data points. If you only have the opportunity to get one data point (or you are lazy), just adjust the desired slope accordingly.....
Re:Not 'Dubious' at all. (Score:5, Insightful)
They are two different beasts and we do not gain by confusing them. Having said that, I enjoy the fun of the Igs as much as the next guy, and it makes for a good laugh.
Re:Not 'Dubious' at all. (Score:2, Insightful)
That's not the point! Re:Not 'Dubious' at all. (Score:3, Insightful)
The point of the ignoble awards is to be FUN!
A mixture of laughing at the genuine hoaxes as well as marvelling at the crazy scientific experiments people manage to get funding for is going to be a much better laugh than what you are proposing.
Personally I like the award for making frogs levitate, dunking chocolate biscuits and for the use of imaginary numbers in accountancy by Enron ;-)
Re:Not 'Dubious' at all. (Score:1)
Of course the scary thing is when they are right anyway.
Re:Not 'Dubious' at all. (Score:3, Interesting)
This is all to true. Much seemingly esoteric or apparantly inconsequential research can have entirely unexpected applications. My favourite example is the guy that proved in the 1970s that Bees couldnt fly. He then spent the rest of his career proving that Bees could actually fly. Along the way, he discovered a hitherto unkown convection current that the Bees are using to give themselves the extra lift. This is now being applied within the field of aeronuatical engineering.
Napkins on a roll (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Napkins on a roll (Score:1)
What about me? (Score:2, Funny)
"Do what I do, get them good and drunk"
Re:What about me? (Score:1)
mmmmm, linty (Score:1)
my grandmother was no scientist but... (Score:1)
Yummy!
Funny Money? (Score:2)
(Whatever)
Re:Funny Money? (Score:3, Interesting)
From the Belly Button Lint results... (Score:4, Funny)
Thats information you need to get through life.
Re:From the Belly Button Lint results... (Score:2)
It sounds like the two-dimensional projection of what is known as a "frustrum", a word which can also describe my experience in getting there.
For the first time (Score:5, Funny)
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Testicular asymmetry in human sculptures. "To test Winckelmann's claim, I observed the scrotal symmetry of 107 sculptures, either of antique origin or Renaissance copies, in a number of Italian museums and galleries. Although the ancient artists were correct in tending to place the right testicle higher, they were wrong in so far as they also tended to make the lower testicle the larger: we may postulate that they were also using the common-sense view that the heavier ought to be the lower." (McManus, I. C. 1976. Scrotal asymmetry in man and in ancient sculpture. Nature 259: 426)
Re:For the first time (Score:2, Funny)
The Effects of ... Inappropriate Highlighting (Score:2)
Belly button fluff (Score:1)
Other important things to research should include
1) Where do lost biro's go to
2) Why trouser turn-ups attract so much fluff (perhaps it's related to belly buttons?)
3) If you tie 4 cats together and drop them wil they all land on their feet?
Re:Belly button fluff (Score:2)
1) Where do lost biro's go to"
That's easy - they go towards coloring your belly-button fluff blue. And the plastic breaks into really small pieces that end up on the floor, and in your shoes, so you know you're standing on something painful, but can't find it.
"2) Why trouser turn-ups attract so much fluff (perhaps it's related to belly buttons?)"
More that it can't escape when the trousers are washed.
"3) If you tie 4 cats together and drop them will they all land on their feet?"
Depends how you tie them. Side to side, there's a good chance. Backs together, either one or two will. Feet together, kitty go splat.
Maran
Re:Belly button fluff (Score:1)
Socks and biros (Score:1)
Awards are stupid (Score:3, Insightful)
The annals of basic science are full of findings that seemed irrelevant at one point, only until they were interpreted later from another framework or in light of other findings.
Basic science is all about asking questions for the sake of asking questions, because it would be arrogant for ANYONE to presuppose they know what is and is not going to be 'of scientific merit'. The people who run these awards, and the ones who snicker at the recipients, are arrogant in the extreme.
I think you're being overly sensitive... (Score:5, Informative)
If you watch or read the awards, or the associated publications, you'll note that the people running and participating in the awards are themselves science-types with senses of humor. They're laughing at scientific research in general, and in a good-natured manner, and not just sneering at a few scientists with unusual specialties...
The awards actually seem to go to a few different types of endeavors:
From my perspective, ALL of the awards seem to have gone to endeavors that are fitting subjects for humor, and I see no claims of valid scientific reasoning being INVALID or 'stupid', merely strange or funny. Further, as far as I can see, NONE of the RECIPIENTS are being 'snickered at' at all, only the "research", activity, or claims that earn the award. That is, it's not the PEOPLE being made fun of (ad hominem attacks are not good science), it is what they are doing or claiming.
In short, in my personal opinion, the only people who really have any reason to actually be offended are excessively thin-skinned scientists (e.g. the late Carl Sagan, who feared that the awards would make people "laugh at scientists") and crackpots, who kind of NEED to be made fun of so that they can claim that their Revolutionary Secrets That Shake the Very Foundations of Scientific Knowledge(tm) are being unfairly repressed by The Establishment...
Re:I think you're being overly sensitive... (Score:2, Interesting)
Bottom line "People can't get ear mites."
The vet actually attended the awards and took the ribbing all in fun.
Hang on... (Score:5, Funny)
Arnd Leike of the University of Munich, for demonstrating that beer froth obeys the mathematical Law of Exponential Decay. [REFERENCE: "Demonstration of the Exponential Decay Law Using Beer Froth," Arnd Leike, European Journal of Physics, vol. 23, January 2002, pp. 21-26.]
What do they mean "cannot not or should not be reproduced"?!!!!!! I'll run this experiment every chance I (URP!) get...
Soko
Re:Hang on... (Score:4, Funny)
No, no, I agree with them - I think there is something just plain wrong about staring and playing with mathematics ("Math-turbating"?) while a perfectly good beer is sitting there going flat, instead of DRINKING the poor, lonely brew...
Physics award (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Physics award (Score:2)
I need to watch The Simpsons . . . (Score:5, Funny)
The dog-to-human translator is taken. Maybe I'll go for tomacco.
-Peter
Re:I need to watch The Simpsons . . . (Score:1)
Re:I need to watch The Simpsons . . . (Score:1)
Funny Quote (Score:3, Funny)
In economics, the executives and auditors at Enron, WorldCom, Arthur Andersen and a host of other companies were commended by the Ig Nobel committee "for adapting the mathematical concept of imaginary numbers for use in the business world."
That's the funniest thing I've read in a while. (I guess I don't get out much.)
Re:Funny Quote (Score:1)
Literature (Score:1)
Re:Literature (Score:2)
Well, why not see for yourself. [google.com]
Dubious? (Score:2, Funny)
Ig Nobel awards typically recognize the most dubious contributions to the world of science and research.
Does this mean that Amazon's revolutionary "One Click" system will be honored?
Re:Dubious? (Score:2)
Circular Reference (Score:1)
"After Ed Pegg Jr featured it on his puzzle website, there was a brief but spirited slashdot discussion, and a few people started offering to help me out with samples. To acknowledge their contributions and let them know how things were going, I decided to make a web site with pictures of all the samples they had sent and those I'd collected myself. The website eventually began to take on greater depth. Here's why."
Re:Circular Reference (Score:2)
Dog to human translation according to Gary Larson (Score:5, Funny)
Naturally, there is also the more subtle guide to interpreting the mood of an Irish Setter [uni-marburg.de].
Re:Dog to human translation according to Gary Lars (Score:1)
Along the bottom cuff is an additional add-on cartoon showing a road with the same face on a run-over flattened Irish Setter with the caption "SURPRISE".
hygeine award (Score:2, Funny)
As for this invention I'm sorry but no pet of mine will ever be placed in a device that looks that much like an industrial microwave.
Nominee for next year - Shoe Size & .... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Nominee for next year - Shoe Size & .... (Score:1)
Whether this is done by the women of the world, or a scientific team, I'd prefer to bow out, and leave the "stretched" length of my penis as a mystery
Re:Nominee for next year - Shoe Size & .... (Score:1)
Imaginary Numbers (Score:2, Funny)
Hmmm.... I wondering why my last phone bill was $36.45 + $7i dollars.
Ironic (Score:2)
check out my screenshot:
Slashdot Screenshot [froggynet.com]
So much irony on so many levels...
Re:Ironic (Score:1)
You mean that you are using IE [mozilla.org] instead of Mozilla [mozilla.org] to view slashdot? I'd say its not that ironic. :-P Pretty common around here.
Why do people think they need to be modded up just for getting a VS.Net ad on their slashdot pages and announcing it? People have been mentioning the VS.Net ads for weeks, if not months.
Actually useful (Score:1)
For shame on giving an award to the under-ease (air-tight underpants that have a carbon filter to stop gas emmisions from smelling too bad)
Have a read of the web-pages, there are people with pretty embarrassingly horrible problems (80% of colon removed, crohns disease, spastic colon etc.) who cannot control their "emmissions"! It's kinda funny - but it shouldn't get a prize like this
2002 Ignobel Prize Winners (Score:4, Informative)
No one seems to have posted an actual list of winners yet, so here you go.
BIOLOGY
"Courtship Behaviour of Ostriches (Struthio camelus) Towards Humans Under Farming Conditions in Britain," Norma E. Bubier, Charles G.M. Paxton, P. Bowers, D.C. Deeming, British Poultry Science, vol. 39, no. 4, September 1998, pp. 477-481.
PHYSICS
"Demonstration of the Exponential Decay Law Using Beer Froth," Arnd Leike, European Journal of Physics, vol. 23, January 2002, pp. 21-26.
INTERDISCIPLINARY RESEARCH
Karl Kruszelnicki of The University of Sydney, for performing a comprehensive survey of human belly button lint -- who gets it, when, what color, and how much.
CHEMISTRY
Theo Gray of Wolfram Research, in Champaign, Illinois, for gathering many elements of the periodic table, and assembling them into the form of a four-legged periodic table table.
MATHEMATICS
"Estimation of the Total Surface Area in Indian Elephants (Elephas maximus indicus)," K.P. Sreekumar and G. Nirmalan, Veterinary Research Communications, vol. 14, no. 1, 1990, pp. 5-17.
LITERATURE
"The Effects of Pre-Existing Inappropriate Highlighting on Reading Comprehension." Vicki L. Silvers and David S. Kreiner, Reading Research and Instruction, vol. 36, no. 3, 1997, pp. 217-23.
PEACE
Keita Sato, President of Takara Co., Dr. Matsumi Suzuki, President of Japan Acoustic Lab, and Dr. Norio Kogure, Executive Director, Kogure Veterinary Hospital, for promoting peace and harmony between the species by inventing Bow-Lingual, a computer-based automatic dog-to-human language translation device.
HYGEINE
Eduardo Segura, of Lavakan de Aste, in Tarragona, Spain, for inventing a washing machine for cats and dogs.
ECONOMICS
The executives, corporate directors, and auditors of Enron, Lernaut & Hausbie [Belgium], Adelphia, Bank of Commerce and Credit International [Pakistan], Cendant, CMS Energy, Duke Energy, Dynegy, Gazprom [Russia], Global Crossing, HIH Insurance [Australia], Informix, Kmart, Maxwell Communications [UK], McKessonHBOC, Merrill Lynch, Merck, Peregrine Systems, Qwest Communications, Reliant Resources, Rent-Way, Rite Aid, Sunbeam, Tyco, Waste Management, WorldCom, Xerox, and Arthur Andersen, for adapting the mathematical concept of imaginary numbers for use in the business world. [NOTE: all companies are US-based unless otherwise noted.]
MEDICINE
"Scrotal Asymmetry in Man and in Ancient Sculpture." Chris McManus, Nature, vol. 259, February 5, 1976, p. 426.
Re:2002 Ignobel Prize Winners (Score:1)
Don't suppose anyone knows if the Bank of Commerce and Credit International was/is related to the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (AKA Bank of Cocaine and Conmen International)?
Still, sounds like they're upholding the proud tradition [nwu.edu].
I'm surprised Jan Hendrik Schon didn't win (Score:1)
It was certainly irreproducible.
sodium explosion video (Score:4, Informative)
Re:sodium explosion video (Score:1)
Re:sodium explosion video (Score:1)
Table's prize (Score:1)
"the Periodic Table Table was awarded the highest conceivable award for which it is eligible"
Interestingly the sentence works just as will shifted round:
"awarded the highest award for which it is conceivably eligible"
Studying beer froth? (Score:2)
Well, at least that's what they say they were doing down at the pub during working hours! Why didn't I think of this one!
Re:And my dog says: (Score:1)
That ep was on last night.
Re:And my dog says: (Score:2)
"Fuck off, it's MY couch!"