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One by one, their old friends are gone. Death, natural or not, prison, deported. Hillary Clinton is the only one left, because she always made money for her partners.
I firmly believe Hillary is only using her star power to draw money and attention to the party. There's plenty of time to find another charismatic muppet and let her ease herself out while putting on a 'vigorous' campaign. The presidency just doesn't seem logical.
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She already has it, for a long time. The presidency would be a step down.
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Not in terms of historical immortality.
That's what replacing Kissinger is about, much longer term wealth/power and 'immortality'.
Your ilk (what you vote for) are identical. That kind of wealth/power cannot be achieved without being part of her 'ilk'.
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Your ilk (what you vote for) are identical.
No. I'll give you kind, but not degree. Her Majesty is major league, compared to the T-ball players around her. Irrespective of party.
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Their goals are identical, not their 'accomplishments'. Degree is irrelevant.
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Degree is irrelevant.
So, you're arguing that the common cold is stage 5 cancer?
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No, I'm saying you can't be *just a little bit pregnant*.
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Well see, the thing is, you don't get Hillary's wealth/power without doing what Hillary does. That goes for everybody in the racket. You are trying to differentiate John Dillinger from Al Capone.
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I mean Herod from Pilate
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Note that JEB made a show of publishing emails ahead of Her Majesty's announcement about The Royal Server. There is quite a bit of behind-the-scenes crap going on. And, if there is ever to be anythin
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Ted Cruz [gifsoup.com] is the water boy. A wannabe Herod. I am fascinated by your continued appeal to these people. Eh, shows you've learned nothing from the past still. You're right about one thing. All of your republican, and the other democrat contenders are wannabes compared to Hillary, and Cheney (Bush). But if they can follows orders, they might be given the job. I still contend that Hillary's ambitions are much higher.
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shows you've learned nothing from the past still
Oh, that's such a sweet dig. I'd've been disappointed if you didn't bring the old pony out for another ride.
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You're living proof, what can I say? See, it's not your 'integrity' that's in doubt. It's your total lack of situational awareness. You are sleep walking. *you are forgiven, you don't know what you are doing*.
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Once I quit taking you seriously, it was all so, so much more amusing.
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And so we return to that old conundrum...
That's the thing, you never left. With you it's always Groundhog Day
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But aren't corporations people now? (Score:2)
For that matter we saw similar arguments fall flat against the Bush family in earlier times. But since the
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It's a non-issue. The republicans simply don't have a viable candidate, or they would concentrate on that instead. Their obstructionist tactics over the last few years hasn't earned them many friends.
Well, there is Bruce Jenner coming out of the closet as a Republican and a regular church-goer ... so that must be confusing to all those people who were saying his story is an example of "left-leaning socialist democrat atheist moral depravity."
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The republicans simply don't have a viable candidate, or they would concentrate on that instead.
I guess I don't know what you mean by 'viable'.
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I would say just look at the two sides. Both sides have the perception that Hillary will win the democratic nomination, even though she just announced. Can you think of any other time that someone who wasn't an incumbent president had a similar situation?
On the republican side, it's a real mess, with too many candidates vying for the same core group of voters. How do you distinguish yourself from the others if you all sound pretty much the same? Nobody stands out, though everyone is sure their candidate w
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What's sauce for the goose ... [politico.com]
Also, Clinton is not seen as the only ripe target. Bloomberg reported on Thursday that Schweizer is working on a book about Republican presidential contender Jeb Bush.
“What we’re doing is a drill-down investigation of Jeb’s finances similar to what we did with the Clintons in terms of looking at financial dealings, cronyism, who he’s been involved with,” Schweizer told Bloomberg Politics. “We’ve found some interesting things.”
Should be interesting to see the dance of trying to insist that Schweizer is credible with Clinton, but not with Bush (after all, what can Bush do to defend himself except attack Schweizer)?
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I guess I don't know what you mean by 'viable'.
'Viable' is fungible. Take away all the crazy people and the republicans would get about 5% of the vote. Take away the idiots who believe anything they are told, well, that would leave less than a million people who vote. Too bad the non voters don't talk to each other, organize and pick somebody. No more democrats and republicans. At least the complaints I hear would sound a little different. But they too, have been convinced they are helpless, not by the 'man
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Take away all the crazy people and the republicans would get about 5% of the vote.
More like -37%. I mean, as long as you're going to go broad brush, brush that broad, say I.
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Nah, I'll concede the few that need the money...
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What I particularly love though - and wh
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Sadly, I think most voters are cynical enough to realize that it's common practice for politicians to throw dirt at opponents for the same sins they've been guilty of in the past. "It's nothing personal, just business."
The problem is, cynical voters don't vote. People are getting turned off by all the personal attacks and the drama surrounding them. Usually, both sides have this problem going into the primaries, with people in each party attacking other party members who are also running. That's not happen
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I think you're equating a willingness to compromise on an issue with agreement, which is not the same thing.
I don't think so. The polls don't ask if people were "willing to compromise on the issue of same-sex marriage." The times, they are a-changing.
The whole "same-sex couples are not good role models as parents" is pretty much dead, with 78% saying they're just as good.That's not a compromise position.
59% approving of same-sex marriage - approval is not a compromise position either.
All the support for Ms. Jenner is also not a "willingness to compromise on an issue." And it did pretty good in the ratings - 17 [nydailynews.com]
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The courts have shown their corruption, overturning voters across the country. It is left for me to raise my sons with a proper understanding, irrespective (and disrespective) of what some liars say.
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Where's the corruption in overturning bigoted law? Shall we re-segregate the schools also? I guess equal protection is off the table in your house.
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Where's the corruption in overturning bigoted law? Shall we re-segregate the schools also?
Non sequitur. You're getting great at that these days.
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No it's not. You are claiming corruption on the court's part, where is it?
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can't we get back to Calcium Anthropology, the study of milk-men? (Steven Wright)
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When the voters go against the Constitution, they shouldn't expect to win. But then again, law is a crap-shoot. I have no problem with people raising their kids to be good members of society who are willing to work with others who they don't see 100% on all the issues, and not just sheeple.
So yes, compromise is a good thing - it tends to get people away from zealotry. I was just pointing out that the polls didn't reflect compromise. This is what people actually believe.
There are fundy christians and musli
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There are fundy christians and muslims who have no problem with same-sex marriage, just as there are catholics who use birth control.
I disagree with the idea, but understand that law is a means by which we manage disagreements.
I guess my incapacity to subscribe to a concept I consider false marks me a "bigot", and justifies infinite H8 for the fustakrakich in the crowd.
Still, somehow, I'm the "persecutor", I guess.
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A bigot is someone who treats someone else with disrespect. Saying you don't understand something, rather than throwing rocks, is a sign of respect. Discussions are better than fight-fight-fight (though sometimes it's hard to tell the difference :-)
I guess my perspective is a bit different because I know what it's like to have a fundy mind-set (after all, I was one), and I know that most of the people aren't monsters. They just believe what they've been, and I do occasionally miss the certainty) taught by
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A bigot is someone who treats someone else with disrespect.
I like that definition, except that anymore, "bigot" is tossed at anyone who commits ThoughtCrime.
While there are quite a few ideas that I just can't fathom, I only get anywhere near nasty (at least, from my perspective) when somebody is attacking my integrity.
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13% of those polled approves of congress. Over 96% percent of them were reelected. Over 98% of the voters vote for the institutional party, which is the republican/democrats. That number has been stable for a very long time. We have fewer independents in congress than ever. There is no indication that will change any time soon, despite all the angst being posted here. There is very little reason to believe mass media polls.
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I think most people hold their noses and vote for the lesser of two evils. I know that's the feeling of most of the people I talk to.
I don't see that changing any time soon either in the US. There's no solution, since it has been a bi-stable system for too long. Current voters haven't lived with a serious 3rd party. No 3rd party has gotten even 20% in the last 100 years, so all they've done is split the vote.
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I think most people hold their noses and vote for the lesser of two evils. I know that's the feeling of most of the people I talk to.
Yes they do. And it is that kind of thinking that puts them where they are. The 'prison' is self made, and they feel more comfortable there while moaning about the cruel world.
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The 'prison' is self made, and they feel more comfortable there while moaning about the cruel world.
The world is fallen. The only available liberty is Christ.
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It is not 'fallen', it has yet to emerge from the primordial ooze.
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how they are not bothered in the least by the hypocrisy.
Not even in your league on that topic.
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They don't need a 'viable' candidate. With control of congress they can get what they want. And I don't know why people argue about this as if democrats and republicans really oppose each other. That would be like a wrestler beating on his tag team partner. This whole theater is the same tired old good cop/bad cop routine. What's sad is that people still fall for it, right here on Slashdot.
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In a system that has entered bi-stability, you won't see all that much difference because they're trying to appeal to a sufficient majority of the voters, which means they have to appeal to not just their base, but the average voter as well.
This is what happens when you have a 2-party system that is so ingrained that it's become impossible to change.
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Difficult, maybe, not impossible. Just watch how a massive flock of starlings can suddenly switch directions.
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Yeah, and?
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Yeah, your people are doing that pretty successfully. Keeps people occupied, I guess.
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Yes, yes. If you were ever less than immaculate in your impeccability, the world should end.
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People always have the same options. They only limit themselves. The system is their own making, and only they can break it. The 'stability' comes from contentment and apathy. We all let things slide when they work 'good enough'.
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Well, like I try to tell Mr. Smith, we are the cause, and the cure, not some ethereal creation of our own making.
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You're not making sense. Part of your regular evasion 'technique', eh?
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want to string up Hillary for accepting donations from individuals who run corporations that we don't like
Well, you're being quite harsh on Her Majesty here.
I mean, she was workin' real hard, tryin' to do her job, when all these 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and 9s just kinda flew around some accounts and stuff. It was all so complex. Who can understand it? Oh, yes: that Vast Right Wing Conspiracy that has been targeting Her Majesty the last 2+ decades.
Dirty, filthy, evil conservatives, picking on Her Majesty!
It's enough to make a loyal subject clutch the pearls and collapse on the fainting couch!
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Hitlary is going to come out of the closet, and much like the race card was overplayed the "homophobe" card will get overplayed.
Media coverage will be fawning over how "courageous" the first open lesbian Presidential Candidate is, and how we should all embrace the history of it. But the kicker will be this:
Jeb Bush will be her running mate. Then the narrative becomes that Ted Cruz / Scott Walker / Rand Paul is "so extreme" that even Jeb Bush, a life-long Republican, is support
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It's not because we're placing her above God, it's because it's our way of affirming and re-affirming the divinity of Christ.
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Across the varied tapestry of Christianity, there's an awful lot that has me shrugging.
In defense of Roman Catholicism/Eastern Orthodoxy, I'll take the hit that the Evangelical "tradition" is drab and has just as many challenges as the "high" churches, albeit different ones.
Not out to offend you. In any case, we've nothing mutual to prove.
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It's not Catholics or even the Church; I'm just not on about large organizations.
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Here's some. [openbible.info]
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You know what I do to my kids when they want to thumb wrestle? I use my index finger and tell them it's "outside interference", WWF style.