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Comment Bill G has to worry about fraud too ... (Score 1) 12

But why in God's name did the foundation need 2,500 of them just to spend Billykins money ?

I think the emerging Minnesota and California scandals are demonstrating why charity funding must be closely monitored, charitable orgs investigated. Private orgs can be targeted just like government agencies.

Comment Re:ML models have extracted general knowledge ? (Score 1) 63

No one can claim ownership of your knowledge and experience. You cannot, though, duplicate other people's work.

If AI duplicates code it was trained on, it may be a violation of copyright of the work used in training, not a violation of copyright of a product it is trying to duplicate.

The point I am trying to get at is that the concept of "duplicating code" is fuzzy. General knowledge, straightforward and obvious implementations, etc can make work non-infringing even if the code looks similar. An AI that is using some sort of logic to build a solution is quite different than an AI that is searching the internet from similar examples. Similar code being more legally acceptable for the former. Just like a human who studied a textbook or academic literature use open source code as examples to teach higher level concepts of operating system, network, image processing ,human/computer interaction, etc.

Comment Re:ML models have extracted general knowledge ? (Score 1) 63

A human who has seen the source code cannot be part of the team producing a clean room implementation. They will taint the project with their general knowledge of the system they try to rebuild.

Apologies if I was not clear. I am NOT talking about the clean room based clones. I am talking about every day software development. That too is sometimes based on having studied copyrighted code. Mere similarity is insufficient to claim infringement. It has to go beyond well known and discussed general knowledge. I expect that concept will be successfully applied to AI too.

Comment Re:yes drnb (Score 1) 117

I know what you said it about, so that’s why I called you out for changing the subject to China. It was a dick move.

China is the subject of this article.

Stick to talking about Europe

Europe banned Russian: 1. Oil 2. Gas 3. Coal

Banned but still importing it during the Ukrainian war, thereby funding Putin's war.

From google:

"Despite the ongoing war in Ukraine and the imposition of several sanction packages, European Union (EU) member states have continued to purchase Russian oil and gas, with Russia earning approximately €209 billion from fuel exports to the EU since the invasion in February 2022 through early 2025."

Comment Re:so, where can i buy these? (Score 1, Interesting) 14

ah, not available, except to rent a time slice? fuck off, then.

In the context of building ML models, renting a virtual farm, may be the better solution. You think think the GPU upgrade cycle is bad, wait until you try to keep up with AI level products. :-)

Accelerating the ML model on your PC or Mac is a very different thing.

Comment Apple is kinda replacing Nvidia ... (Score 1, Interesting) 14

Apple is kinda replacing Nvidia, not is the general market but within its product line. Its integrated GPUs and NPUs (neural processing unit) are designed for client-side AI processing. Accelerating ML models. It's all deeply interested into Apple Silicon CPUs, which are ARM64 based.

As for creating the ML models, I am not sure if Apple is competitive there. At the individual user level, with respect to Nvidia more affordable products.

Comment Similarity insufficient for straightforward code (Score 1) 63

Compare the code, if it's similar then Claude is relying on stuff it's been trained on. If not, it's generating novel code that does the same thing.

Insufficient. There have been cases where an infringing company had to rewrite their code and have it examined and signed off on by the original copyright holders attorneys. The lawyers basically did what you describe, "this looks similar."

When the developer could convince the judge that the code in question was basically a straight forward implementation, basically what would be "expected", the attorney was overruled and the code allowed. Similarity is insufficient if the code is simple and straightforward enough.

A coworker once worked on such a project, brought in to cleanup infringing code. He says it was annoying to work under such supervision, but he was being paid by the hour and it was coming out of the a-hole infringer's pocket so he was well compensated for having to deal with the lawyers.

Comment ML models have extracted general knowledge ? (Score 1) 63

Humans have used copyrighted software (which would include FOSS) for their training. I think there is a legal concept that if copyrighted material is used to attain general learning, that general knowledge can be applied to new original works. These new works are not derivative if based solely on the general knowledge extracted from the original copyrighted material.

Some similar concept could be applied to ML models. That the models contain extracted general knowledge.

Comment Don't FOSS dev do the same at times? (Score 2) 63

Some will argue that what we do is exploitative, that we are extracting the ideas from open source while leaving behind the people who contributed them.

How is that different from those who create a FOSS project to create a FOSS alternative to a commercial product? The process is simply less formal for these FOSS devs. Neither sides looks at original source code, both sides rely on observed behavior and reimplements that in a new way. FOSS having "noble" intentions and MalusCorp having "less-than-noble" intentions does not change this fact.

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