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Comment Re:Butterfly Ballot not Supreme Court decided 2000 (Score 1) 633

The state-wide recounts showed Gore winning under all of the state-wide recount scenarios

The state-wide recounts are a fiction. Gore never requested one. The Florida courts only ordered a partial recount of undervotes. The media never had all ballots to do an actual complete statewide recount, thousands of troublesome ballots were never delivered to the media.

Comment Re:Butterfly Ballot not Supreme Court decided 2000 (Score 1) 633

Nor does it change that fact that those who claim the winner was declared by the supreme court are misinformed. Nor does it change the fact that by the rules in place before the election, and by the altered rules requested by Gore, Bush would still have won. Nor does it change the fact that the controversy and recount are secondary effects, that the true cause for Gore's loss was the ballots designed and deployed by the Democrats.

Which of these facts are you disputing?

All three, they are opinions backed up by incomplete data gathered and reported by partisans.

Then you prove yourself wrong. The Supreme Court did not declare a winner, they let the rulings stand of the state officials who were originally empowered to decide matters of counts and recounts and deadlines. These state officials decided the election, declared the winner, not the US Supreme Court. The Supreme Court merely let them perform their appointed roles. And then there is the butterfly ballot designed and deployed by Democrats, with this there would have been no dispute nor recount, and Gore would have won. That you can not accept such simple facts proves you are the person with partisan issues. As for the partisanship of the recounts, it was done by the media, if anything the deck was stacked in Gore's favor.

Comment Re:David Bowie beats your economist ... (Score 1) 158

They'll just reinstitute the gold reserve act and take it all away from us.

I don't think they banned possession or sale of gold wedding rings. Coins, bullion, sure ... but keep in mind that we are discussing what **criminals** will do so the effectiveness of that act would be debatable.

By the way, in the movie the rings were traded/pawned one at a time as if the ring were the alien's one and only.

Comment Re:Butterfly Ballot not Supreme Court decided 2000 (Score 1) 633

It is a false urban myth that Gore would have won the recount.

Your urban myth. Fact is, press recounts showed Gore winning a state-wide recount under any scenario.

Press accounts from back in the day and wiki easily prove otherwise. Gore loses in many recount scenarios, specifically the scenario he was requesting. If he had his way he would have still lost. And various other scenarios proposed by democrats too.

Comment David Bowie beats your economist ... (Score 1) 158

Better yet, make cash go away.

I remember speaking with an economist years ago who said if you wanted to eliminate crime nearly overnight just make the largest bill $10. Very difficult for Tony Soprano to transact crime if $50,000 was a half-a-million pieces of paper.

I recently watched The Man Who Fell to Earth staring David Bowie. This alien visitor had a stash of hundreds of gold wedding rings that he bartered/pawned as needed. I suppose we'll have to serialize, register and track all sorts of highly portable valuable items too.

Comment Re:End anonymity for cash (Score 1) 158

Typical, the economist is an idiot who can't think outside the small box his teaching has kept him in. In the absence of cash, an alternative untraceable currency will simply take its place. Necessity is the mother of all invention.

Economists come in many forms, from student to BA to MA to PhD to professor. When speaking with the later in say a graduate level microeconomics class one will spend a lot of time investigating adaptation of individuals and unexpected consequences. Personally I don't consider people who took some econ classes or even have a BA in economics to be economists. Although they may play one on TV.

Comment Re:Butterfly Ballot not Supreme Court decided 2000 (Score 1) 633

What Bush did was ask SCOTUS to intervene and issue a ruling on the results of a disputed election, when what would have otherwise probably happened is that it would have gone to the US legislature, according to constitutional procedure.

Actually the US Supreme Court decided not to allow intervention, to let the Florida state officials who had the authority to rule on counts and recounts and filing deadlines determine what would happen. Intervention would have been taking away the decision making authority from the state officials, the Florida Secretary of State, etc.

It would only become an issue for the US Legislature if the State officials had said there are no valid results. The State officials were not saying that. They were saying they had lawful results and an approaching deadline.

Comment Re:Butterfly Ballot not Supreme Court decided 2000 (Score 1) 633

All of this is buried in so much lies, puffery. misdirection and general "hurray for our side" partisan story spinning that the only thing anyone can really be sure of is this: the election was close, damn close. It was probably within the margin of normal error close. If you think you know "the true story," you're kidding yourself.

The fact that the election was a statistical tie does not change the fact that a winner still needs to be declared for practical reasons.
Nor does it change that fact that those who claim the winner was declared by the supreme court are misinformed.
Nor does it change the fact that by the rules in place before the election, and by the altered rules requested by Gore, Bush would still have won.
Nor does it change the fact that the controversy and recount are secondary effects, that the true cause for Gore's loss was the ballots designed and deployed by the Democrats.

Which of these facts are you disputing?

Oh, and facts do not display partisanship nor misdirection. They merely recall history. That *you* find a bit of history distasteful does not change the facts. And the ultimate fact of 2000 was that the democratic designed ballot(s) cost Gore the election. To say otherwise is denial.

Comment Re:Butterfly Ballot not Supreme Court decided 2000 (Score 1) 633

I didn't move the goal post. Gore lost by the rules established before the election. And Gore would have lost by the new goal posts **he requested**.

The simple truth remains unchallenged. The Democrats did it to themselves with the ballots they designed. The counts and recounts were a side effect of this fatal flaw.

Comment Re:Butterfly Ballot not Supreme Court decided 2000 (Score 1) 633

Did your magic eight ball tell you all this? You're clearly making shit up.

Actually you are living in your bubble of denial. Gore would have lost according to the recount standard he requested.

"After the election, recounts conducted by various United States news media organizations indicated that Bush would have won if certain recounting methods had been used (including the one favored by Gore at the time of the Supreme Court decision)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

A false urban myth.. that's such a loaded a silly way to try to phrase your opinion.

"For example, 21,188 of the Florida overvotes, or nearly one-fifth of the total, originated from Duval County, where the presidential race was split across two pages. Voters were instructed to "vote every page". Half of the overvotes in Duval County had one presidential candidate marked on each page, making their vote illegal under Florida law. Salvado says that this error alone cost Gore the election."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

Sorry, it was the ballot designs. Get over your denial. The Democrats did it to themselves.

Comment Riding Bill's coattails ... (Score 2) 633

She did...and made $100k on $10k investment in a day.

Funny how only the governor's wife gets invited into such investment opportunities.

Her fortune and her career and her fame are all from riding Bill's coattails. And she's the choice of modern feminists? I guess modern feminist leaders really are just democratic party stooges.

Comment Butterfly Ballot not Supreme Court decided 2000 (Score 4, Insightful) 633

The supreme court selected Republican Establishment George Bush instead of the people's popular vote?

No. The US Supreme Court said that the Florida government officials empowered before the election to make decisions regarding counts and recounts and submission deadlines would have their decisions stand.

Plus there is the pesky detail that the newspapers did their own recounts afterwards and found that Bush would still have won.

Plus there is that other pesky detail that the "popular vote" was never the agreed upon criteria for selecting a President. It was always the electoral college and both sides designed their campaigns with that in mind, not the popular vote. If the popular vote was the goal then both sides would have run very different campaigns.

It is a false urban myth that Gore would have won the recount. The election was "stolen" from Gore not by the Florida Governor nor the Florida Secretary of State nor the Florida Supreme Court nor the US Supreme Court. It was "stolen" by the Democratic Party officials who designed and deployed the butterfly ballot that confused Democratic voters into accidentally voting for Pat Buchanan. Gore lost due to his party's error. Painful but true. To say otherwise is denial.

Comment Proof-of-Stake recognizes the wasted resources ... (Score 1) 173

Someone will eventually realize what a dumb idea it was. What a waste of resources ...

Actually people within the cryptocurrency community already realize that. These individuals support currencies based on Proof-of-Stake rather than Proof-of-Work with respect to constructing the blockchain.

Comment Bitcoin miners are useful for heating (Score 2) 173

Most people use electricity for utility: fridge, stove, ac, lights, heater, washer, dryer, entertainment, etc. But bitcoin mining is of zero utility.

Untrue, bitcoin mining is also heating. Depending on the weather it is of great utility. Think of it as a space heater that might pay for itself. Probably not, but it might.

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