Just a note - MacOS is Unix https://www.theregister.com/20.... Linux is Unixy as we say. Note that Unix is "POSIX compliant" now, and has been for a long time, (1993) so the pedants among us might want to weigh in on that.

Point is, I bash around in Terminal half the day. The default is now zsh, but bash sounds better to speak.

Yeah, when I have to go into Windows command line, I have to remember to shift my mental state.

Main point is, I have Apple create the ecosystem while I do paid things. Why should I have to do that? My burn rate overwhelms the cost of the phone or computer very quickly. It's like having a starter motor on a car instead of a hand crank. Obligatory car reference.

Exactly. There is a meme that all Apple users are clueless, with more money than brains. Sure, some are. It would be silly to think that Android and Windows users are the intelligentsia of computer, phone, and tablet users. Some are smart and savvy, some are not

You are trying to make the inferior performance of Android product integration a flex. Yes - I get Apple to provide a functioning integrated system. I have things to do that I am paid for, and those things work so much better with an integrated system that I do not have to futz with while unpaid, simply to make them integrate after a fashion. Just getting a computing device to function is so early 1990's.

And my familiarity with UNIX and its close brother Linux - well, I don't know about sleeping better, but I can get more hours of sleep.

For some, it looks like other places they might put it. Be more inclusive.

You are right about that. As well, they only released them in certain markets where they figured out the demographics. In the world at large, they'd not be so successful. We live in a world where a few people think the iSock is a good idea. Probably the same demographic that believe the new Jaguar commercial people are cool. I suppose if they think the iSock is cool and want to spend the money they can. I suspect they might also have problems with financial savvy, but that's another story.

Do you think? Do you think that Android ownera are all Mensa members or Illuminati?

The iPhone pocket was for sale in very limited locations, picked for demographics. Deciding Apple users are a separate species is kind of prejudiced.

Let's see, there are many of us, like myself, who are on Apple products for a number of reasons

MacOS is UNIX. I'm UNIX. So I'm going to have a UNIX computer. I spend hella much time in Terminal.

The phones and tablets and computers all integrate to an extent that is is impressive. No, Windows and Android don't, not as well.

Family member integration is excellent ApplePlay is much better than AndroidPlay.

Aside from the orange abomination phone, and the stupid iSock, the products are well designed, and tasteful.

So there are many reasons to own Apple products. Yes, some people are in it for some kind of status. Just like some people are into Android as a reaction to those Apple users who they claim are universally stupid status seekers.

And that is the key demographic that would likely have cable. So when they stop, and enough others stop, Cable is in even more trouble than their almost 50 percent drop.

SO and I still have cable, but it's the same thing. She watched Youtube videos, I watch Youtube videos. She keeps things like court shows on for background sound in the house. I watch science channel late at night. But really, the offerings on cable and network TV kind of stink. How many shows can we have of some hot babe banging 10 different guys, than picking one to marry, or real housewives who aren't, or sassy African women fighting with each other? So they're spiraling, and catering to a strange demographic.

Gawd, I remember a time when a model was attractive. Then came heroin chic, when every female model looked like she was strung out. Now I think they are going for "non human".

The thing I wonder about is who is the target audience?maybe the people Jaguar was trying to influence? https://www.youtube.com/watch?....

I know a lot of iPhone users. I don't know any who would want that weird thing. I suppose they will sell a few, but not too many.

This. It is easy to steal as well. Apple is doing one of their occasional farts. They even have the pumpkin spice iPhone. Fortunately they still have tasteful iPhones. I'm an Apple products guy, but if all they had was that orange abomination, I'd wait until they regained their sanity before buying my next phone

They've had failed products before this. And this one will definitely fail Even their models look embarrassed in the pictures.

https://people.com/thmb/4qnlqIrjdWZ9D_WJgTGQA5uwsVQ=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():focal(678x19:680x21)/Bethenny-Frankel-Feels-Like-Borat-In-Plunging-Pink-One-Piece-Swimsuit-051223-3-5e40037d18fa4f8b8ae52c3bedffedca.jpg

Well, Kessler's orbital mechanics work out. Objects travelling over 28,200 kpm have incredible kinetic energy. A space shuttle window was very damaged by a paint fleck. There results of larger object collisions will be all that much more impactful - pun intended. That transfer of energy will send some of the debris higher., some lower.

Just recently, the Shenzhou-20 was damaged by space junk. https://www.scientificamerican...

An Intelsat broke up in orbit recently. They are still investigating the cause. They are now tracking an increasing number of objects from the explosion. https://www.space.com/intelsat...

And since it is becoming pretty difficult to insure satellites now, a lot of sats are launched without insurance, and the companies are making them as cheap as possible. They aren't as robust, since losses will be uncompensated. https://www.space.com/space-ex...

Finally, if you want to see destruction, a country that can achieve orbit could place a bag of sand or ball bearings in a retrograde orbit, and bring the whole house of cards down as the exchange of energy and subsequent destruction occur.

Even that best case scenario of 5 years for the carnage to de-orbit, I'm not sure that people will want to wait that long to get their internet.

If you believe that making low earth orbit impassible for a decade is good news, I have some bad news for you.

Regardless, the nature of the energy transfer from colliding objects in space means that some of the debris will end up in a higher orbit.

I forgot to add - I nuked my back, a muscle tweaking hard and am on some really powerful muscle relaxants. So my writing style is a bit different. Wife says I'm a lot nicer today, Maybe I need to work on that! 8^)

The same growing season extension has happened in Canada. I looked at it some years ago. It is the yearly frost free interval dates. Even a few days can make a difference.

Let's hope the current doesn't collapse. I always thought Iceland was a cool place. (no pun intended)