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Comment: Re:And the escalation continues (Score 1) 441

who decides proper manners? a century ago it probably wasn't "proper manners" for a woman to you know... speak. or wear pants. but that's off-topic.

i'm a bit more liberal than the average american, but i'm of the firm belief that all speech, all expression no matter how offensive should be protected from and by the law. It scares me that if i speak the wrong words, i might ruin my life,

Free speech has limits. Your free speech does not include the right to make terroristic threats. If you threaten to kill someone, then I have absolutely no idea any place where that would not be considered a threat to harm a person. Good manners or not, I recall early on, my parents told me "Never never ever threaten to kill someone." Must have made an impression on me, because I gave my son the exact same advice.

Which is all to say, if you threaten harm to a person, and harm comes to that person, guess who's going be knocking on your door to chat with you? Better have a good alabi.

that if i contribute to the wrong political philosophy or campaign, i could ruin my life.

That is certainly not in the mix here, that's way overstating what I've said. Normal discourse is speech. We can call each other names all day.

I could ruin my life with a single tweet.

Yes you could. You could threaten violence upon someone, disclose company or state secrets, admit infidelity or write something ridiculously stupid about your employer. On there and other services, people have bragged about or shown items they have stolen or about mistreating others. Yes, a stupid single tweet could be a life altering experience. And people have altered their lives.

Which by the way, is why I always strongly advise against using Twitter. The format simply encourages ill thought out texting and responses.

And the thing ruining my life is the judgmental, vicious and gleeful masses.

Or your wife, or employer, or Government as the case may be. Or you.

Regardless, that isn't even involved in what I'm talking about. I'm talking about matters that would get you in legal trouble if you said it in someone's presence. I don't know if you are married or not, but if someone threatened to kill you or whoever you loved, you would just not care or do anything about it? Or not do anything about it?

I cannot imagine anyone not having astrong visceral response to someone threatening non-consensual violent forced sex upon their daughter, and if you can say you'd meet with that person - well good for you. Perhaps not so good for your loved ones if the person threateing the violence carries through on the threat.

I like to think that i try to be excellent to others... but that in some very small part entails being excellent to those that are not excellent to me.

You and I have quite a different idea of what entails "not being excellent" I think. I love a good discussion with different ideas, even where people might call each other silly or stupid or petty, or ofter such comments.

But threats are indicative of a person losing control. And people losing control sometimes carry through on those threats.

Comment: Re:What they really proved... (Score 1) 115

by Ol Olsoc (#49189893) Attached to: NASA Ames Reproduces the Building Blocks of Life In Laboratory

What's your stance on whether "any/all" of the historical mainline models of physics regarding... anything... happened?

Oh, that's right, that was an irrational word construction that couldn't happen for anything in any topic.

Welcome back from the Iowa Freedom Summit, Mrs. Palin.

Comment: Re:What they really proved... (Score 1) 115

by Ol Olsoc (#49188627) Attached to: NASA Ames Reproduces the Building Blocks of Life In Laboratory

The experiment was discredited by numerous researchers for (a) being a tautology and (b) excluding data that argued against its conclusions that spontaneous generation of life is indicated.

Ah, the argument from personal incredulity. Okay, here we go. I simply cannot believe you

See how that works?

Comment: Re:What they really proved... (Score 1) 115

by Ol Olsoc (#49188609) Attached to: NASA Ames Reproduces the Building Blocks of Life In Laboratory

There in no basis for assuming that these conditions would ever occur. It's not statistics, it's wishful thinking. But thanks for pointing out the reason abiogenesists demand an incalculable (and unreproducible) time span of billions of years for their theories to work.

There is a whole lot better chance that those conditions could occur than any/all of the contradicting creation myths of every religion occurred, and you just so happened to be born into the one that is the real one, rather than all the wrong ones.

Don't you have some school board somewhere to infiltrate and force science students to learn creationism?

Comment: Re:Sorry, but... (Score 1) 115

by Ol Olsoc (#49188493) Attached to: NASA Ames Reproduces the Building Blocks of Life In Laboratory

Until we can define WHAT (precisely) "life" IS

Impossible. The division between life/lifeless is like the edge of a cloud. The closer you zoom in, the fuzzier it gets.

And how! By the definition of life back when I was in grade school, we've already created life. But as time moved on, we've refined that to the point that I expect we'll never define anything as human created life. Certainly the religious fundamentalists will never accept it.

Comment: Re:I just got one of these calls last night. (Score 1) 90

by Ol Olsoc (#49188393) Attached to: FTC Targets Group That Made Billions of Robocalls

Realistically, there are NO honest cold-call telemarketers. The law I would like to see passed is that there is a maximum $5 fine for beating the crap out of a telemarketer. And, make it a violation, not a misdemeanor.

Better yet, eliminate any penalty, and have people guilty of minor crimes beat the shit out of telemarketers as their community service.

Comment: Re: Have Settled Charges? (Score 2) 90

by Ol Olsoc (#49188337) Attached to: FTC Targets Group That Made Billions of Robocalls

I wound up agreeing to "parking on the sidewalk" which got me a $100 fine and wasn't reported to my insurance company. (My fine was higher than everyone else's and to this day I still wonder if it was because I questioned the validity of the ticket since the officer wrote down the wrong street that it happened on.)

No - its because you were parking on the damned sidewalk, ya bastard! Now straighten up and fly right.

Comment: Re: Have Settled Charges? (Score 1) 90

by Ol Olsoc (#49188315) Attached to: FTC Targets Group That Made Billions of Robocalls

However as is typical in these cases, while the settlement imposes a civil penalty of $7.73 million against CCL, it will be partially suspended after CCL pays only $500,000. Other companies involved such as Linked Service Solutions got a $5 million civil penalty but will only be required to pay $25,000.

Which is all to say, mere cost of doing business. I wonder is a 15 minute delay before starting up again was part of that "punishment"?

Comment: Re:Funny Thing... (Score 1) 410

by Ol Olsoc (#49183789) Attached to: Microsoft Convinced That Windows 10 Will Be Its Smartphone Breakthrough

Among the people who use it, Windows Phone is already hugely popular. Every time I'm around people with iPhones or Android phones, I hear complaint after complaint about things that don't work right, underwhelming features, etc.

I've never been around a Windows phone user to hear how great they are.

Terrible that the best damn phone ever invented is so unpopular.

Comment: Re:And the escalation continues (Score 1) 441

yes. obviously they should die for words they speak. you are a wise and just person.

And you? Maybe not so much.

But people are going ot have to come to grips with the fact that we aren't quite as anonymous on the net as we thing we are, so the time approaches when people with dark souls that might think rape is funny will suffer the legal repercussions to making those threats.

We don't have to agree on everything, but we should all use proper manners and stick within the law. Bill and Ted said it best - "Be excellent to each other."

Each honest calling, each walk of life, has its own elite, its own aristocracy based on excellence of performance. -- James Bryant Conant