Agreed: The first one is a policy based on real economic reality. The second one is an unsupported conspiracy theory which ignores the reality that US companies that do the exact same thing.

You are 100% correct.

For human interactions, the LLM seems random not only because most interfaces set the temperature to a nonzero value, but also because seemingly irrelevant changes such as spacing or punctuation will change the LLM output.

allo literally defined it in the post:

So far, lab grown meat hasn't done particularly well in terms of flavor, so it's hard to say what is ideal outside of an actual chicken.

Actually the interesting thing about that propaganda is nobody actually sells any meat like that. Antibiotics also aren't cheap and aren't used unnecessarily, rather, they're only used in the event that the animal is sick, and only slaughter it after there's no more indication of infection or antibiotics.

The "antibiotic free" meat comes in one of two varieties: Either it's done the way it has been done in the history of modern medicine, or the rancher doesn't treat sick animals with antibiotics at all, generally opting for increased suffering in order to satisfy the desires of people like you.

Yeah that's false too. The "pink slime" is one part of the chicken, not the whole chicken, that used to go to waste because it's tough to chew. But after a bit of preparation, that changes things. We've done this a lot in the past, take brisket for example, an otherwise tough cut of meat which now goes for a premium after it's been prepared. But given you're obviously a soyboy, I don't expect you to be familiar with any of that.

But after people like you raised a shit, now McDonald's wastes it again, even though other restaurants don't, all because you didn't like the way it looks before it is cooked. Meanwhile a lot of you insist on only eating food grown in cow shit as opposed to nitrates created with the Haber method, because natural is better or something, and shit is natural.

You know how you know that I'm qualified and you're not? Because when I troll you, I do it in plain sight. You don't because you already know that what I'm saying is too easy to prove.

Well, you are in fact othering unnamed people and feeding hate against them. More than half of the people living in the United States are among the top 1% of global incomes, both in absolute terms and in terms of disposable income, which I guess qualifies half of this country as ultra-rich, but who has the authority to set that arbitrary goalpost? Last I checked, I haven't been fighting with anybody else, and nobody has been fighting with me. Nevertheless, you're apparently coveting my income, which makes you the greedy one. All I'm doing is working to earn my salary, and the only reason that pisses you off is that you don't get to stick your hands into it.

Anyway, so how does this fight work? Are you trying to piss rich people off by spitting gum on the sidewalk so they might step in it? Do tell.

They're under no such obligation to the general public, only to their stakeholders, and only to the extent that it is legally relevant to each. However, and this is the important part that you're all too familiar with, without being mindful of: Anything they do or say may be used against them in a court of law.

Apple tried the civil equivalent of that and it blew up in their faces. Club fed should probably hire epic's legal team to do the prosecution's job here

Pig as in porcine, not rsilvergun. Besides, human kidneys only come with a 90 day warranty. If you lose your graft after 90 days, you start over on the wait list. I'd wager porcine kidneys carry no such limitation.

I'm sure that vibe coding is real and that it works, but nobody ever said the code will do what you think it does. The best thing it could do is crash and burn, and I'm pretty sure vibe coders can figure out fixes for it...provided they do more vibe coding. The second best thing it could do is fail in a really obvious way without actually crashing. And again, more vibe coding to the rescue.

But what happens when it fails in very subtle ways? Particularly on unknown edge cases. That's where fluffernutter or angleosphere confidently produce shitty code.

For what it's worth, my own experiences match your groups 1 and 2. Though I'm self-taught with no CS background whatsoever. The guy in my signature claims to be, and so does this guy:

https://slashdot.org/comments....

You gotta love the way he asserts that he will code four times as fast, and how he relies on his programs to crash and burn when he makes a mistake, but then proceeds to talk about how his potential semantic error is superior because it involves typing a whole four less characters. And that's with him having a lot more experience with the language than me, which also strongly hints that he never learns from his mistakes.

I have found uses for AI in just two areas though: Assisting in reverse engineering code output as they tend to be able to spot patterns in ways I occasionally overlook, and converting documentation into usable data structures. And that to me makes them basically just the next evolution of the search engine, or possibly an (un)paid intern that you really need to supervise but they otherwise give you more time to focus on bigger stuff as opposed to minutia.

And my first job where I got paid money to write software was in infosec, where having autistic paranoia against doing the wrong thing pays off.

Not really. In many respects they're far more market driven than the US is, though I mostly pay attention to Sweden, who I *know* is more market driven, even using a school voucher system to a remarkably great effect. Aside from the obvious things like local utilities being occasionally government owned means of production, they're mostly private sector with a welfare component added in to government fund it. There's a very big distinction between that and socialism.

Also, people commonly confuse their economy with being that of a maximalist welfare state. In reality, if there were such a thing, that would definitely be France, who spends the most of their GDP on welfare than any other country. The US is actually right on the heels of the Nordic states in that respect, and does in fact have a much more expansive welfare system than most countries, though it's far removed from the top as well. It's also worth noting that our GDP is higher than all of Europe's despite having half of the population, so on a per-capita basis we may even be spending more than some of the Nordic states.

https://ourworldindata.org/gra...

It's difficult to make an apples to apples comparison, given the needed data isn't available in most cases. Nevertheless, a lot of the "socialism is better even though I have no fucking idea what it means" camp get this incredibly wrong as well. As France well demonstrates, being a welfare state is very far removed from being a guarantee of happiness.

https://worldpopulationreview....

It really depends, though at worst that ends up either being a wash, or, more likely, you get more income that more than makes up for it. If you're like me, where your employer pays 100% of the premium cost, then you get both. I can't say I've ever worked for a company that gave only two weeks of vacation a year. My previous job was 5 weeks, would have been 6 weeks if I was there a few years longer, but only 6 holidays. My current job is 3 weeks plus 11 holidays, two of which (4th of July and thanksgiving) are always four-day weekends.

As for me? No fucking way I'd live in NYC. Every time I see youtube videos of people talking about how great it is, I'm thinking to myself "meh...I get that everything is within walking distance and all, but a total absence of nature isn't my thing, nor am I interested in waiting in long ass lines for basically everything, and that's before we even consider the rodent problem (which is a symptom of all their natural predators having been driven out) or the pickpockets.

I didn't say anything at all about imports. I already know they allow that, particularly because they import ours. If you dig through my post history (as many here often do in order to try to discredit me) you'd find that I've even commented about this before. In fact, I've been somewhat an activist on this topic for a very long time. This post even got accepted waaaaay back:

https://slashdot.org/firehose....

I don't know where the accepted version is, but the reason I linked that in particular is that I've made very few submissions at all, so it shows up right there in my user page. Anyway, if you feel like discrediting me, go for it.

Well, you might want to read your sources more before linking them.

So this article was from 2015, and not only did it make a few predictions that now read like a prophecy, they even noted big losses in the biotech sector that happened even back then, like BASF moving its biosciences division out of Europe and into the US where it could continue its R&D all the way back in 2012:

https://web.archive.org/web/20...

The future seems dim as well:

https://allianceforscience.org...

It seems they've been fighting this for some time, so the article I linked about Europe peeling back the NGT regulation is probably premature, so they may not even be doing that any time soon as this has been a contentious issue for it seems two decades now. So actually, rather than going easy on that claim like I was before, I'm going to double-down on it.

You might consider keeping your ear to the ground:

https://www.reddit.com/r/biote...

Needless to say, overregulation causes a lot of harm (which several posts there allude to impacting them on an individual level) not just there, but even another topic seemingly unrelated to biotech:

https://www.labiotech.eu/trend...

While I'm not at all an expert on gene editing, I can say the one good use I've gotten out of AI is its excellent ability to spot patterns in very large datasets. It's pretty useful for my field, where I do a fair bit of reverse engineering. Indeed, the more I look into this, the more Europe seems to be kicking its own butt.

Anyway, you know what one of the dumbest rallying cry towards this cause is, and I hear it often in these discussions? "Europe banned it, so you know it's bad!" Shit, there's no shortage of Europeans who have been talking about how awesome they are for banning it, even on this site. And no, I'm not going to link any of those posts because slashdot is one of the most unsearchable sites on the internet and I didn't bookmark any of it.

Trump's win had nothing to do with Russia, rather, it's because your kind refused to back any candidate that wouldn't promise to exterminate the Jews, and you know it.

The reason I replied is because this idiot has already forgotten what caused the most recent chip shortage, which was literally only two years ago, and didn't even happen during the Trump admin.

I don't even care about Trump, I don't even understand why you guys get so fixated on him at all. I can't stand him so I just don't dedicate anymore of my own headspace towards him than I need to. You guys seem to dedicate as much as you can towards him. For what purpose? It's just madness. Then again, I don't care to doomscroll either. Life's too short, and I've got better shit to do. Some of these guys wonder how I autodidact my way into outdoing them at their own specialties -- it's probably because I've got more hobbies than just Donald Trump.