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Comment Re:China's energy policy is coal first ... (Score 1) 202

While China's CO2 output is the highest globally, per capita its output is just over half of the US. That's even without considering that much of China's output is as in this article, manufacturing pollution imported from other countries. The bill for this pollution should fall on the country that consumed the manufacturing output.

Comment Not mentioned (Score 1) 13

>the Nokia feature phone business from Microsoft, which had in turn bought the ailing brand in 2014.

No mention that Microsoft sent executive Stephen Elop to dismantle Nokia as its CEO in 2010. Nor that in 2014 as part of the deal to acquire Nokia's phone business leaving the rest of the company to soldier on, Nokia insisted that Microsoft repossess him.

Submission + - Budget to close Mauna Loa Observatory Climate CO2 study (cnn.com)

symbolset writes: Slashdot regularly posts milestones on CO2 levels reported by the Mauna Loa Observatory. Continuous observation records since 1958 will end with the new federal budget as ocean and atmospheric sciences are defunded.

Comment Re:in other words (Score 4, Interesting) 181

I agree that humans mimic LLMs with respect to probability judgements. Marketers know that if you see a "fact" written in a few different articles or sources, you come to assume it's true, for example. We rely on what our culture feeds us and we internalise it as beliefs.

But the other words you mentioned are actually very difficult and deep questions which smart people throughout the ages have wrestled with and we still don't know the answers today. Sentience/the ability to have an experience is the most obvious and direct reality we each have, yet nobody knows how that works.

Yes our minds can remember things we've heard and repeat them like a photocopier or an LLM, but we don't know what is experiencing the whole show.

Comment Re:What a horrible idea. (Score 1) 137

A carbon price built into the economy, perhaps that means, eventually, resource rationing for every human being. Most of what we do causes pollution or just using something up, even if just fresh water. This is the look in the mirror moment.

We kinda use money but it's so abstract now that it has no connection to the natural environment. And yes what's sand until someone invents a process to coverts it to something useful. But many processes deplete.

Some regenerate, like soil regeneration. So maybe the concept of money creation should be environmental creation insofar as the environment in the end supports humans. If we don't need pandas or house cats then they're not part of the equation except as liabilities. Some environmentalists say we should eat the cats and dogs.

But regenerative farming would be actual wealth creation, as would any environmental intervention which supports our ecosystem for eventual human life.

I imagine this how eventually it'll have to go.

  And having children would have to be costed in as well. Are your children going to be a net contribution to our economy of ecology, or a net drain? It may be that you have to borrow theoretical credits to have children and then train them to be, as an example, regenerate farmers, so they can repay your debt.

So you'd have to show you could train them well in that and that their skills are needed where you live. Dense cities might become a kind of weird luxury as they are mostly consumption machines.

Sounds crazy but the notion of externalities is ultimately about how our money symbols don't represent the environment but a weird story about who is permitted to make promises.

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