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Comment Re:Human on the loop required (Score 1) 142

I make a few reasonable inferences that don't involve magic. Meanwhile you invent active shooters with no shots fired and no gun present. I'm pretty sure they didn't use divining rods or the magic 8-ball to locate the kid in question. The picture was obviously available (since it is documented that it was shown to the kid). It's documented that the kid was cuffed and on his knees. It's documented that there never was a gun.

The "gun" turning out to be Doritos must have been fairly obvious since when the kid pointed it out, he was not arrested and taken away.

It's also obvious that had they looked at the picture FIRST, the kid wouldn't have even known they were there (nor would anyone but the principal and perhaps a few others in the office).

You can feel free to lick as many boots as you like, but leave me out of it. If the police want respect, they'd best get busy earning it.

Comment Re:Human on the loop required (Score 1) 142

Allen said they made him get on his knees, handcuffed and searched him — finding nothing. They then showed him a copy of the picture that had triggered the alert. "I was just holding a Doritos bag — it was two hands and one finger out, and they said it looked like a gun," Allen said.

So you figure they were waving ostrich feathers at him threatening to tickle?

Do you think the only actual guns in the school at the time didn't loom large in the kid's vision?

How do you suppose they picked out the "right" student to hassle without a picture?

In the before time when I was in high school, searching for weapons was a job for the unarmed principal or the football coach. Either they had the picture on them or they held the kid WAY longer than necessary after the pat down revealed nothing.

The parents should sue the crap out of the cops, the school, and probably the manufacturer of the scanner.

Comment Re:I'm inclined to believe that BUT... (Score 1) 132

Agreed, the actual publication is considerably more ambiguous. In my case, 2K really would be about the max, but I can easily see other people would have a good case for 4K.

Though notably they're talking about ability to discern the difference in an A/B test. A somewhat lesser display may still make no difference in the 'experience' of normal watching, but that would require a follow-up study.

Comment Re:Human on the loop required (Score 1) 142

They had the picture of the alleged gun that was clearly not a gun. That's a DAMNED good reason to doubt he had a gun. They were just too fucking stupid to look at the picture. Too stupid to be allowed to carry a firearm. I agree that there was plenty of stupid to go around. Yes, the dispatcher should have looked, especially since the information came from an error prone AI. The whole lot of them should be re-assigned somewhere where they can't hurt anyone. Not picking up trash, that involves a pointy stick.

It's funny that the one person in the whole story who didn't demonstrate poor decision making was the TEENAGER.

I would suggest that a passenger look at the picture, or they look at the picture before they decide to endanger everyone on the road by driving like a clown for no reason.

What makes you think those are the basics of police training?

I never claimed it was the basics of police training. It is the basics of the society's expectation. You know, the people that ultimately pay them. I would think that making references to things learned in kindergarten and Sunday school would have made that clear.

As for sorry, by the time you actually kill an innocent person (at best negligent homicide), you are probably beyond a simple sorry. But in this case, the kid is right there. A public apology is in order.

It's funny that the much better trained and disciplined military police behave so much more professionally and courteously in spite of being primarily soldiers prepared to go into an actual war zone where killing people is in the job description.

Comment Re:Human on the loop required (Score 1) 142

The information they had clearly showed that the kid had a bag of Doritos. My argument is that since they had the picture, they should have looked at it on the way over.

You admit there are plenty of neighborhoods where people don't call the cops. That leaves a vacuum that will inevitably be filled with vigilantes. If you want vigilante justice, that's how you get it. If the police won't improve the situation, perhaps they should get out of the way. But a much better solution would be getting rid of the morons (especially the ones at the top) and training cops in basics like verify your target, protect and serve, and that old parental favorite "use your head for something besides a hat rack". A dose of what we learned in Kindergarten and/or Sunday school might also help. When you screw up, say you're sorry. When you harm another, make amends.

Meanwhile, I'll call 'em as I see 'em. Don't want to be called a moron? Don't act like one.

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