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Pre vision Pre IPO announcement: Upon 10 people responding positively to this Journal Entry, I will create an e-mail address and a paypal account for the sale of $10 official pre-IPO shares in The Oregon Project, a new co-op to invest in Robotic Technology and the Control of Natural Resources. 250 shares will be available at this price, with the proceeds being used to set up the initial corporation. Future shares will be $1000, so read Manna and decide now if you want to invest. Stay tuned to this JE for announcement of the e-mail address to send your money to, in return you'll get a PDF of the official share certificates, and your name and contact information entered into the database of allowable Oregon Project Sponsor Citizens. ----------------------- I've had enough interest that 10 shares will be purchased for sure at some point in the future. That is enough interest for me to actually do something. Which I will do this weekend, to the extent of finishing the stockholder database and creating the program that spits out the stock certificates in PDF. If you really want to toss your $10 into the hat, http://seeberfamily.org/ORProj/ is the temporary website, and Paypal's transaction recording is already taking your e-mail & shipping information which will feed the stockholder database. I'm open to anybody who wants to redesign that single HTML file into something better- just view source, change to your concept, and send it to ORProj at information dot us. This is a coop, not a dictatorship, and the first 250 shares will raise the money to create a non-profit corporation that states that.
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  • You were announcing your Presidential explorartory comittee... :-)
    • Nope- Amazon patenting their Mechanical Turk proves that it's too late for Democracy. Corporatism will take over AI soon, and we have to be prepared. The Oregon Project is a reasonable (and for me, relatively nonviolent and completely legal) response to this development. The initial money will be used for incorporation costs and invested in Amazon, then the first 100 shares at the $1000 price will be invested in a proposal for a McDonald's Vending Machine. From there we will invest in properties in the
  • I call dibs on a share! :)
    • You're welcome to be the first beta test! http://seeberfamily.org/ORProj/ [seeberfamily.org] is the website I'll be using. Each time you click the Paypal Donate Now button, you'll have a chance to spend $10 to reserve a stock certificate. Stock certificate will NOT be required in the future when we track down you and your potental heirs to be citizens, but the number of times your e-mail address is recorded in the stockholders database will limit the number of people who can become citizens. Stock certificates #1-250 will
    • You should now have recieved your share certificate, if you bought one! One person may not have recieved theirs, I'm trying to track them down but they used an anonymous paypal e-mail address.
      • Aha! Stock Certificate #0...

        Geeky in an awesome way :)
        • It's due to an unexpected difference between Microsoft Access/SQL Server (my professional job requires I use these) and Open Office Base: Apparently default identities in Base are base 0 instead of base 1. So the identifying primary key in the shareholder database is base 0.
  • What exactly will this start up do? Is it to create a system like that described in "Manna", or am I missing something?
    • It's to create a corporation like The Australia Project described in the final chapter of Manna, only we're going to do it in Oregon. To build funds in the first phase, we will invest in companies that are developing the technologies described in the sci-fi novel "Manna". In the second phase, we will be investing in land and resources. In the third phase, we'll be investing in robotic labor to build our town/city/whatever the members want. In the fourth phase, we will be hiring detectives to track down
  • I don't get paid until Friday though. You can send me a paypal invoice to wsl3 {at} lrsehosting {dot} com...
    • It'll be Friday before I have the stock certificates set up. But the beta test stock sales page is working, there were 3 entries in the database this morning.
    • You should now have your stock certificate- I should have come back here to update some info from slashdot profiles, or your name on your stock cert would have been Scott Lockwood instead of LRSE.....I'll update the database.
      • Actually, that was not accidental - I'd rather it be LRSE for business reasons.
        • Oh, ok. Though in the end, if the project is successfull, that citizenship will only be good for one human being. Can't change the rules merely because a business bought the stock :-)
          • I'm the sole owner. :-) So, no problem there. This just shield's it as an asset.
            • Ok- we *might* have a bit of a problem with that, as I misread Regulation A of the SEC somewhat (Bruce Perens of Technocrat noticed- and pulled the anouncement from that website)- I'm going to have to send you a new "donation certificate". It will mean just about the same, but it will have the word "stock" taken off of it. I'm willing to take a personal hit for the mistake- see my latest JE- if you want to back out, otherwise you'll be getting a "donation certificate" later tonight. This would only be a
  • I'd buy in for 1 or 5 shares. Couldn't hurt.

    • http://seeberfamily.org/ORProj/ [seeberfamily.org] is the temporary website for this project. Click on the donate button all you want- though only the first 250 shares will be at this price, and will be used to cover costs towards creating the non-profit, voting rules, incorporation papers, etc. Anything left over will become the seed of the investment fund- and no, beyond original creation, and throwing in my money for a share for each of my immediate family members, I don't want control of this thing. It will probably ta
  • Don't know if it'll work or not, but somebody has to do it.

    I'm in for four shares, but paypal does no workee for me. Western Union OK? Can wire money today or tommorow.
    • Wait 'til this weekend- I'll think about other methods and announce formally the website and the project. I'm sure everybody here will end up in the first 250 shares.

      And agreed, don't know if it will work or not- all you might get in return is an e-mailed PDF or four, numbered with your name on it- and it may well take private detectives to track down your descendants by the time this thing reaches maturity. But it's better than ending up in terrafoam :-). I have no idea if it will ever reach the end of
      • all you might get in return is an e-mailed PDF or four, numbered with your name on it- and it may well take private detectives to track down your descendants by the time this thing reaches maturity.

        And I have zero problems with that. The important thing is to build momentum. The best thing that could happen to this project is for copycats to emerge. Have you emailed Brain about this? Maybe he might want to set something up coordinating all the projects like this that might emerge.

        • Have you emailed Brain about this? Maybe he might want to set something up coordinating all the projects like this that might emerge.
          Seconded. He may also give advice and/or a better way to go about it, or even join in.
          • I'll add it to my list of things to do, once the stockholder database and stock form creation program is done, I'll do that.

            No, wait- better idea, why don't you two go ahead and do it? This is supposed to be a cooperative, after all! Go ahead and link to my JEs and of course the stock sales website, write your own JEs or post here with anything you find out.
          • I e-mailed M. Brain- he gave permission for us to use The Australia Project rules as long as we also link to the story. He had no other advice- but he's eagerly watching us, and we'll have a story in his Robotic Nation blog soon.
        • I hadn't thought of that- it's a great idea. I think I'd like the website to look a bit better first- and have my database and stock certificate program set up first- but yes, his Blog would be a great place to announce this. And yes, I have no problem with other people setting up copycat systems as well; after all, why shouldn't there still be an Australia project? Or a Europe Project? There will likely be 9 billion, or maybe even 20 billion, people on this planet by the time this matures, certainly ON
        • I've now e-mailed M. Brain about it- he's given us permission to link to his sci-fi story and use The Australia Project rules as a basis for our rule writing. We'll get a story on his blog soon- though I'd really really like to see Pavel's version of the website first.
    • Western Union OK? Can wire money today or tommorow.

      WU or snail mail is just fine; the new version of the website at http://seeberfamily.org/ORProj/ [seeberfamily.org] has the address. But I'm going to have to run such payments through my home business account, so make it payable to Information-R-US.

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