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Except that science collectively doesn't claim to know what happened at the points when the universe was dense enough and at high enough energy scales that it is speculated current laws of physics break down

Yes, that's my point exactly. They don't. Because they can't. Because the theory is based on assuming something happened that our physics can't describe. BB theory is therefore incomplete in a way that makes it unable to stand in the face of what at this time appear to be some very simple and reasonable questions. Questions physics force us to ask.

To stick with your analogy, the Big Bang theory isn't saying the baseball materialized spontaneously from the ground, but that it appeared at some point on that path, with some evidence that the trajectory goes back some where near the ground for loose definition of "near." In which case, there being a pitcher and it being spontaneously generated on that path both being consistent with current theories and observations

No. Quite wrong. The specific reason I use this analogy is that BB theory goes right to the ground -- fractions of fractions of fractions of a micrometer above -- such that the option of there being a pitcher or a ball launcher, or a firecracker under the ball, or a really strong dwarf cricket or even microbe, etc., has completely gone away. You cannot explain BB any further using our physics because they state that the theory covers it right back until it cannot. Consequently it either has to be some other physics, or else it's massively wrong. Theories that are rigorous but then, still within the context of their own propositions, devolve into "and then we don't know" or "because we have no idea"

BB theory may, as I said above, be quite correct, and we may need new physics to understand it. if that's the case, on that day, it becomes a complete and compelling theory to me. Until then, it's not.

As of right now, spotting a galaxy that shows what we understand to be evidence of being older than would be possible if BB theory is correct does not particularly surprise me, any more than finding evidence that "Thor" was just some dude with a really big hammer would surprise me in the context of the ideas that present the Æsir and Vanir as "gods." Because just as, at present, there are no physics that would actually make the idea of a god or gods credible in the face of objective, reality-based inquiry, there are no physics that actually make the idea of the BB credible in the face of same.

"Don't get your knickers in a tryst, you're trying to make a temptress in a tea cup. Hold your whoresons all ready." Yes, because you are always so articulate.

No agenda, just curious, I certainly wont put any effort into the search. I think war worship is really rather outdated though and focusing on other stuff will likely be a lot healthier for everyone. So yeah, my 'agenda' certainly is not what you think it is.

It seems not many honest journalists are likely to agree with you http://johnpilger.com/articles.... So yeah, Australian politicians make their own choices, yeah, nah, not that much, they aren't dumb, they know the consequences. They might fail a bit more in carrying stuff out then would seem normal, and they might leak all over the place and they might dissemble for a very long time and they might ensure indirectly that the Australian public get riled up as proof of an unpopular idea but they do not out right refuse and not because they do not want to.

Due you have any idea, just any idea at all, that the income from that mom and pop add to their local community versus sending it all away to a multi-national corporation so some douche bags can wallow in billions. Wall street is nothing but psychopathic greed, main street supports the whole community that it is a part. You just come off as a typical PR liar, neither smart nor dumb just totally disingenuous.

Yes, because cities buried underneath water and hidden for thousands of years are a complete and utter myth. http://weburbanist.com/2013/04... and I am the troll HA HA HA.

Have you failed to see how often a preferred ally of the US, suddenly becomes a distant ally, than a country of concern and finally a supporter of terrorism, as they refuse to obey US government dictates. Along with that goes regime change and bringing of US favoured 'er' democracy or autocracy or total chaos in order to remove actual democratic governments. Your seriously think Australia is save from that, why, a whole bunch of other countries certainly weren't.

"Monoblock" or "the primordial monoblock" is a term for the presumed state of the presumed material comprising the presumed universe just before it presumably exploded. Everything, no exceptions, including space itself, all in one tiny... something, (tiny with respect to... something), that did.... something, and then [waves hands] Big Bang! Try this google search.

Science can trace the expansion of the universe backwards quite a ways, within the bounds of our understanding of physics as it stands and it makes sense, albeit some very strange and difficult to swallow sense. But go back far enough, and a point is reached where our physics simply do not serve to describe the previous state. At all.

I liken it to tracing a pitched ball backwards, not having been around to witness the pitch, but analyzing the arc of its trajectory and theorizing that the ball erupted spontaneously from the ground in order to arrive where it is. We can't account for such a spontaneous emission, but after all, hey, there's the ball, right? The immediate and obvious objection is that "but physics tells us that can't happen"... well, physics tells us the exact same thing about the big bang. That's why I consider the comparison apt.

I'm not saying the big bang theory is wrong; I'm just saying it is definitely unproven, and that there are severe and fundamental problems with attempts to prove it at this time. Tomorrow, we have new physics, and that may resolve everything very nicely. But until or unless that happens -- until someone shows how the "ball could erupt from the dirt, spontaneously or otherwise" -- personally, I'm reserving BB theory acceptance.

Why look for a destroyed death machine, just why? Surely there must be far more interesting and intellectually challenging stuff to search, like the lost civilisation of Atlantis supposedly an ice age civilisation wiped out by major global warming at the end of the last ice age. At least the water will be shallower on a couple of hundred metres or though there will be many metres of mud to deal with and the scattering from the tidal surf zone sure wont help matters much. Much more cross discipline and fun and a lot more people could play and discover.

A free market is a market where you take what you want for free, literally and literal definition. So the freest market is living as a nomad in the wild as stone age man, watch out for the real predators because running around completely free means not being able to rely on anyone else when it comes to tackling that pride of lions or that pack of wolves or tiny, tiny critters that infect you body and that you would not be able to survive with out any outside cooperative assistance. Freedom can not be shared, as sharing logically places limits on freedom of actions.

The problem is M$ is not offering the options customers want, either OSX or preferably Android. Offering options is pretty pointless if the options you offer and not the ones the customers want regardless of how many options you offer.

When M$ were being dicks with ribbons and windows 8, they completely ignored the idea, that hey, pissing off customers in one market segment will likely negatively impact those customer choices in other market segments. So how many people pissed off by ribbons and touch feely desktops choose to punish M$ by choosing any phone, absolutely phone other than an M$ one and for how many years will those customers hold a grudge. Seriously arrogantly pissing of customers can get them to hold a grudge not just a several years but the rest of their lives, you play you pay and the Ballmer legacy will hang around for a long time to come.

Because buying at Walmart, buying cheap is rarely ever buying smart. Crappy products, shit wages and conditions for fellow members of your community, closing down of better local businesses often with better products. So yeah buying at Walmart is like 'investing' in lottery tickets and hoping for something better no matter how often it fails.

The real question is, do the Australian and New Zealand governments have a choice. The US is positioning US marines in Australia, fully armed and munitioned (so called firing range practice), as a measure against China, around 7500 km away. Now seriously so far away from China and like only a couple of thousand against the whole Chinese army. Hmm, to me it sounds like more the number you would need to take over and occupy the Australian government parliament should they disobey. For how long did the US government punish New Zealand when the New Zealand government banned US military ships from entering if they would not declare whether or not they had nuclear weapons on board, for how many decades did this go on.

You seriously think Australia politicians want to sign the Trans Pacific Partnership and abandon their constitution to US corporate dictates and as a consequence lose any chance of ever being elected again but if they are corrupt enough they will and the consequences for US Australia relations will be awful.

Point the finger at Australia and New Zealand is like blaming the hostage for being kidnapped. The problem here is lazy, ignorant, stupid Americans who let their government run riot across the rest of the globe. You seriously, I mean seriously, think that those are the real choices of the Australian and New Zealand governments or just the same choices any other hostage would make.

But I'd still be nervous, near the nozzle like that.

It works for bombs and tanks, but not for computer networks and communications. It might have even worked in the time of telegraphs and snail mail letters. But for encryption, it doesn't work. A cipher is either weak, or strong. You can compromise a foreign postal system without affecting the security of your own, but you can't secretly build a backdoor into an encryption algorithm that works only for you.

Now you're trying to reverse the chain of causality just to make a cute finishing sentence. :-)