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Comment Addiction vs. Options... (Score 2) 30

I'd be curious what the breakdown is between 'addicts', in the compulsively-does-thing-despite-knowing-it-is-contrary-to-their-interests sense, and sad but locally reasonable behavior from people with tepid options.

'Addict' is a comparatively easy call to make when people are getting fired because they no-showed to play WoW; or spending all their time scrolling tiktok despite having a school or college worth of peers to socialize with; but if you are retired, less physically able to get out and about than you used to be, and at the age where your friends and peers are starting to die off, it seems like a much more open question whether having an engaging if ultimately rather hollow hobby is an 'addiction' or just a kind of depressing local maximum.

It's obviously not some ideal of perfected human flourishing; but if you are doing it because you don't really have things to do, rather than at the expense of things you have to do, that's not really classic addict behavior; just a mediocre hobby.

Comment Re:The level of irony. (Score 1) 119

Could you help me understand the 'irony' here? Is saying impolite things about a dead guy the moral equivalent to being perhaps the most pivotal figure behind a war with an estimated half-million dead and a causus belli that was transparent bullshit; not to mention the elevation of extrajudicial torture to official policy? I'm not sure I follow.

And, if you'd like to expand on the 'political leanings' thing; I'd be more than happy to call anyone whose politics involve thinking that Cheney did a great job a monster as well; especially when it's so hard to argue that any of Cheney's ugliest aspects even paid off. Flirting with more expansive theories of the ends justifying the means can be a dangerous business; but, bare minimum, you can attempt to rank means by degree of atrocity and ends by degree of effectiveness; and on that score Cheney's work was honestly pretty shit.

Remember the 'Pax Americana' that the neocons assured us could be bombed into the fractious elements of the middle east? Lol. Bin Laden? Dude was chilling in an upmarket suburb in Pakistan while we were pissing away blood and treasure on hitting a mixture of hapless civilians and 'insurgents' who had the temerity to suggest that our puppet government was not the legitimate local administration in one peripherally involved country and one uninvolved one.

So, go ahead, please, explain your other level of irony. Tell us whose political loyalties are to this grade of not-even-effective violence. What'll it be?

Comment To quote a more humble version of Descartes (Score 1) 186

I think I think therefore I think I am.

But seriously, as some have said here, there appears to be no possible scientific test of whether subjective consciousness is present or being faked.

Therefore one is led to question whether that distinction is meaningful, or matters at all.

This remains the hard problem of consciousness.

My fascination with AI is for us to develop information processing (and storing) technology which helps us answer exactly how far you can go with a created "thinking" mechanism which we cannot demonstrate has subjective consciousness. How far you can nevertheless go with creating general cognition, including introspective cognition, and cognition guided and prioritized by emotion-like symbolic tags which encode and prioritize ego-desired vs ego-undesired outcomes in experience-encoding world models and also hypothetically future-extended world models. Does any of this require subjective consciousness? I would certainly wager not. Does subjective consciousness spontaneously emerge, if enough such general, associatively-interlinked information storage and processing is occurring (a la Tononi)? Who knows. How would we tell?

Comment Re: LLM can't do what isn't programmed in to it (Score 1) 186

This statement shows a profound misunderstanding of how computational complexity works.

Yes, computer algorithms can output things that are not (intentionally) programmed into them.

There are two or three secret magic things which result in that happening:

The first is (effectively) random input. An algorithm may be attached to an input device (e.g. a sensory device, or text inputter aimed at most of all human Internet text expressions...) which sends the algorithm an effectively random sequence of input data.

The second is loops which can be designed to feedback a functional result of one piece of random input as input to the next processing round so that the first random data helps determine the direction/extent of algorithmic processing of a subsequent different random input. I say the feedback loop "helps" determine the further processing, because a third magic element, the conditional statement, branches the processing (in the loop) this way and that depending on this or that small detail of the (effectively random, remember) input or the (even more complex and completely unpredictable) combination of past and present inputs.

No programmer could possible keep up with the complexity of how this looping, conditional execution with random input sequences will go. No programmer can, in general, know where this kind of processing will end up, and with what result, nor even, can they predict if the program will keep looping or stop with a result.

Finite, simple algorithms, particularly with random input sequences (although those is not even strictly necessary) can generate arbitrary, unpredictable results. There is actual well-known math behind what I've tried to say in lay terms here.

Comment Re:Hmm (Score 1) 169

This is mainly because institutions and systems that used to teach people how to do wisdom are lost. Modern age has information and tools to process it, but not the methods and practices to deal with bias and self-delusion,

Perhaps those railing against high schools, colleges, and even post-graduate education, need to go back and deal with their *own* biases and self-delusions. The institutions and systems are there.

Comment Re:is it "the decline of smart homes" (Score 2) 149

It's possible that we'll see more given the generally geriatric trend among people who actually have money in the developed world; but a lot of 'smart' stuff is almost weirdly aggressive about squandering assistive potential.

It seems like it would be an area with a fair amount of promise; if only because not being able to do it yourself does answer a lot of the "why would I need a probably-unreliable and ad-riddled computer to do that for me when I could do it myself?"; but then you see them give the product to a UI designer whose contamination OCD is triggered by readable levels of contrast who replaces all the scrollbars with invisible grey hints; or a product manager with no real sense of UI at all who just churns things randomly or decides that blind copying of UI elements from phone-sized touchscreens to high resolution PCs with mice or large but lowish resolution TVs with remote controls is totally sensible.

Even users of average or better cognitive flexibility tend to be somewhat unhappy about that; and people who are not any the better for age tend to cope with the change less well, especially if compounded by visual or fine motor issues.

Comment Re:It wasn't the license plate reader (Score 2) 169

What seems even more concerning is that this is how he acts when he knows he's on camera and speaking to a relatively poor railroading candidate.

Because of their enthusiasm for working at or beyond the limits of their actual authority; you normally expect even dumb cops to have a decent instinct for the informal sociology of what they can get away with and against who. Columbine Valley, CO, household median income of ~$130k, over 50% over-40, most of the young under-18s presumably attached to households, 95% white, population a bit over 1200, is not quite at "my police department can do things for me my private security can't" levels; but it's pretty far toward 'customer service' on the "are police customer service workers or occupation forces?" continuum; and it's at least an inner suburb of the ff-course-they'll-fucking-lawyer-up-dumbass metro area.

If this is the sort of attitude that this guy brings to this situation it's hard to imagine him reacting well to encounters with the public in general. Hopefully he's more of a mall cop losing his mind for want of the stimulation promised in police academy; not the sort with a suspiciously stained large flashlight and a favorite rural ditch.

Comment Re:Hmm (Score 3, Interesting) 169

I don't think that the relationship is that straightforward.

You can, absolutely, build bureaucracies to resist accountability and avoid transparency; where nothing is every anyone's fault in particular, and all the records are classified, and the department in charge of checking its own work invariably concludes that procedure was followed. It takes some doing because the amount of formalized process required to keep a large org from just disintegrating means that you can't help but leave a paper trail, meeting minutes, policy documents, etc. that all need to be sanitized or kept out of reach of discovery and meddling reporters; but is certainly doable, especially if you can apply steady pressure over a prolonged period of time.

The high-cohesion/small-size case, though, tends to degrade into the 'if the mayor, the sheriff, and the DA get along they can basically do whatever; if the sheriff is prickly enough they might not even need the DA' awfully quickly and easily. Crumbles more quickly if there's a falling out internally or something Bad happens that has FBI agents sniffing around, since there's no entrenched apparatus designed to create the impression that organizational norms are being upheld; but, if that doesn't happen, it can be very opaque since it's small enough that no formal management and only very limited recordkeeping are required; and accountability is effectively nonexistent.

Comment Either I'm confused or the summary is incomplete. (Score 1) 248

It's possible that the summary is missing an important qualification; but wouldn't it only be possible, even in principle, to conclude that something could or couldn't be a simulation on a specific type of computer rather than in general?

If, say, you were able to demonstrate that you had an actual RNG, not a pseudorandom number generator, you'd know that it isn't being simulated on a turing machine; because those do determinism only. However, in practice, we build computers with what we think are RNGs all the time; because connecting the deterministic finite state machine to a peripheral that's full of thermal noise or radioisotopes or lava lamps or whatever is a totally doable design decision. Were someone in one of our simulations to conclude that non-deterministic behavior falsified the simulation theory they'd simply be wrong; because (it appears) that the reality in which we construct our computers is a little stingy when it comes to things like infinite state storage; but reasonably helpful on high quality entropy.

In the case of this 'non-algorithmic understanding'; it sounds like you may be successfully demonstrating that the simulation would only be viable on a somewhat more exotic machine; but basically just one that has a lookup table attached that it can use to check whether an unprovable statement is true or not. I would not want to be the one stuck building such a device; but it doesn't sound any more exotic than quite a few of the various 'oracle machines' that are supposed, for purposes of theorizing about computability and complexity, to have a black box capable of solving certain classes of problem.

We even interact with a much humbler example of an analogous thing more or less all the time: the reason we bother with storage devices is that there's no way to know what a given series of bits "should" be. Absolutely trivial(assuming sufficient time and RAM) to go through all possibilities for what it might be; but no way to decide between the possibilities. So we suck it up and plug in our flash drive; then copy off the cat picture that we actually want. Essentially a block device is an oracle that answers the otherwise algorithmically impossible question of "what is the state of those n bits?".

I don't say this out of any particular affinity for, or belief in, 'simulationism'; and further acknowledge that the authors may have made a meaningful(but rather narrower) statement by formalizing certain requirements for what a simulator would be required to be capable of; I'm just unclear on how you could make the claim to have disproved simulation, in general, unless you managed to come up with something that could not be implemented as an oracle even in principle, which it doesn't sound like they have.

It does seem to at least suggest the possibility of excluding 'trivial' nesting of simulations: someone simulating us would appear to need hardware that we would not be able to implement under the rules we are provided; just as someone in a deterministic simulation wouldn't be able to implement an RNG, which we at least appear to be able to do(at least, if they are PRNGs, they hide their state somewhere very cryptic); so if there is anyone out there who thinks that it's totally possible that, like, the universe is just big 486s all the way down, man, it would appear that they are on thin ice theoretically, with at least some details suggesting that the simulator need be fundamentally more capable, rather than just bigger, than a system that can be implemented within the simulation; but my impression is that any serious consideration of trivially nested simulations had foundered purely on the size problem among all but the densest rocko's baselisk bros already.

Comment This seems like it will go poorly. (Score 1) 60

I'm a little unclear on what anyone thought this elaboration was getting them; unless it was purely pessimism about the existence of any sort of untapped channel where cute but relatively crude steganography wouldn't be necessary or could be better-handled by any of the myriad excuses to send bits of encrypted information(altering the agreed-upon portions of encrypted JWTs returned by some auth endpoint or the like).

There's the very specific case of 'warrant canaries', for which there's some US case law around compelled speech vs. compelled nondisclosure that might given them better constitutional coverage vs. just ignoring gag orders; but even that is a matter of some uncertainty; and this sounds like it's both more expansive in terms of what jurisdictions could take a dim view of it and much more overt in just being an obfuscated disclosure.

Clearly if the obfuscation keeps you from getting caught that can work; but as a legal strategy this seems to be a straightforward "just flout the order" that would be relatively simple for any peevish feds to prosecute accordingly; quite possibly even providing a few extras to throw in because doing financial transfers to facilitate crime sometimes counts as an additional issue.

Comment Re:What's the problem? (Score 4, Interesting) 262

The definitions of 'advance or promote'; and 'equity ideology' are as well. You are basically looking at a situation where you could get hit with a $1.5 million clawback at any time for more or less anything someone at least vaguely connected to the PSF says that someone ends up feeling thin skinned about.

We're not even talking having to do anything: one probably-justified comment about how many people are going to get ICEd on the way to PyCon US this year would, in theory, be readable as falling under Executive Order 2(viii) " the United States is fundamentally racist, sexist, or otherwise discriminatory."

Or, on the even-harder-to-avoid and less inflammatory side; it could just be someone doing vibe statistics about PSF grant recipients (257 groups or individuals last year; so a decent sized sample if the coming year or two aren't wildly lower) and kicking up a fuss on twitter about how they don't seem perfectly demographically matched to the ideal techbro. Wouldn't even need to be terribly plausible or statistically significant, just enough to chum the water a little.

If this were actually just about who gets hired to execute the work specifically funded by the grant the risk would at least be manageable enough to actually treat it as a meaningful choice you are being asked to make, rather than just a sword of Damocles.

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