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Comment Re:Let's keep in mind: (Score 1) 15

Lots of colo companies charge for both ingress and egress.

Yes, I know, since I was on the team for storage (Block, File, Object) at a large ISV with data centers around the world.

Network traffic isn't free.

Again, yes, I'm aware of that. Typically, the data centers I was working with used multiple OC-192's. Telco class MAE routers are not cheap.

On the bright side, AWS only charges for ingress.

I think you meant egress. Which is common because Object Stores are non-atomic. If you want to change an object, your first step is to download what's there (if you didn't keep a local copy), change it, delete what you have in the store, then upload the changed dataset. Because it's non-atomic.
I did a quick squint at S3, looks like nine cents a gig egress up to 100 GiB, and then you go to a lower pricing tier. Ingress is also a change it looks like, for the API for sure, I didn't bother to identify transit as it's an object store.

I'm certain NASA did the math on their network traffic charges for both solutions and Amazon S3 came out cheaper, even with egress charges.

Actually, the choice was made by a political appointee for policy reasons. Math had nothing to do with the outcome in that case.

What *does* cost a ton are the S3 API charges. That surprised me when I accidentally found that out.

Which is why SWIFT has API tiers, to limit the price of runaway programs with bugs, or unexpected traffic. So does S3, and you even have an exposed API to check your call statistics. Not sure with the S3 system has for a refresh cycle, what I worked with were contemporaneous. If I recall correctly, someone sells an API sifter for Amazon billing that will alert you to monitored issues. I'm a firm believer that "no news means you're ignorant, which is never good news."

Please try to compare apples to apples next time.

I am comparing using an internal system versus a service.

The selection of a service over using internal mechanisms is when the service is either too lightly utilized to justify facilities, staffing, and capex,

or

outsourcing those functions is desirable from a operations stand point.

From that standpoint of facilities, staffing, and capex, it is unquestionable that the government fulfilling these will be less expensive in the long run than using a service. That leaves policy as a deciding factor going against it. The policy consideration wasn't articulated.

Comment Re:Blaming the victim (Score 2) 57

"Sir your dog shat on my lawn"
"No Sir, your didn't put a fence around your lawn, therefor my dog did not know it can not shit on it"

This is the entire OpenAI ToS. "You give us permission to shit on your lawn"

Here's the the thing, OpenAI is training, coding and operating this AI, therefor it should be legally responsible for bad information in the same way a bad employee at a burger place, spitting on the burger is.

Comment Re:It's not supposed to be profitable (Score 1) 66

The wealthy prefer a dystopian hell hole for 99.9% of the population and extraordinarily god-like opulence for themselves. They want to be able to control who lives and who dies on such a fundamental level that they are like the Pharaohs of old literally exalted to godhood.

You cannot as a regular person comprehend the kind of greed that a man like Elon Musk or Bill Gates experiences as their normal state of being. It is way past just wanting money or yachts or any of that and into the point where they want to be transhuman.

And you need to understand that they do not think of you as a human being. You are not at the same level organically or as a species in their eyes. You aren't even at the level that you for example perceive a chimpanzee as in their eyes. To a guy like Elon Musk you're more like a slime mold. An utterly alien existence that might occasionally be useful.

Comment Re:It's not supposed to be profitable (Score 0) 66

I mean you could stop voting for right-wing politicians because you don't like queer people or brown people or whoever the fuck it is you don't like (in Japan it's certain job descriptions because the Japanese can't tell each other apart well enough to create racism).

You could also get over that stupid 12-year-old feeling of it's not fair when you see somebody having food and shelter without being miserable 40 hours or more per week.

But you're not going to do that. Or if you do your friends and family aren't. So like crabs in a bucket we are going to destroy ourselves.

I'm not acting like there's anything that can be done about it I'm just venting. Flaws in human reasoning and emotions mean our species is doomed and it is incredibly frustrating that we're all going to die for such a stupid and idiotic reason.

Who knows maybe one of the other species will take over after we kill ourselves. Smart money is on raccoons. A few more mutations and they'll have opposable thumbs. Beavers are also in the running.

Comment Not enough time (Score 1) 66

The population decline from low birth rates isn't drastic enough. You can look up how the math works out but there is a long tail of increased population growth before you see the crash. It has to do with how you already have all these people of childbearing age going through their lives.

So long before our population could adjust we're going to get hit with huge amounts of layoffs that will cause massive amounts of social strife. There's no getting away from it.

Comment Re:The experiment to train LLMs on LLM output begi (Score 1) 52

There won't be much of an experiment per se. In practice it will quickly devolve into a few big players that control platforms people use so that they can continuously access new training material.

So microsoft, Apple maybe and Facebook and possibly but probably not Twitter (since we just learned 80% of the accounts on Twitter are Russians and bangladeshies pretending to be American conservatives) will continue to thrive because they will be able to tell the difference between a bot and a human being thanks to their control of the platform.

Everyone else was just accessing free training data goes tits up soon. Some of them will be bought out.

In addition to devastating the job market and devouring electricity and water AI is also going to result in huge monopolies because it's a technology that lends itself to monopolies inherently.

Comment Re:29 Months? (Score 1) 160

It is precisely because I don't want to mess around that I get an Android phone. You want to take a video with you on a plane but it is .MKV. on Android I just copy over wifi and go but what would I have to do with an iPhone?

There are many ways. I can transfer via bluetooth to a windows computer. I just copied a video I took from my iPhone to my Windows laptop. It was in .mov format, and media player plays it fine.

iPhones do use .heic format as opposed to .jpg or .png . You can get a converter at the Microsoft store. Not really an issue for people hanging out in your "walled garden. When I connect the iPhone to my Mac, it imports the images and movies into photos, then anything I do results in a jpg. Pretty much a non-issue.

I want a copy of the photos on my phone on my PC, I connect a usb cable and copy them.

Exactly, I do that with my iPhone as well. When I go on vacation, I usually take my Windows laptop along and load my iPhone pix on it. along with my DSLR pix. Then run the heir to jpg converter in the background while I read email or annoy people on slashdot while enjoying a cold brew.

With the 99 dollar phone comment I felt when I had a MacBook that the OS was designed to work better if you bought Apple products. This is what I mean about pressuring people to buy other Apple products. Apple could have used open source software to do the same things but instead they almost seemed to make workarounds more difficult.

As a user of Apple, Windows, Linux, and Androids, it seems at least to me that you are making what I consider minor differences, that can be overcome easily into something you consider major. And that's okay - we're all entitled to our own opinions and workflows.

Comment Re:YAFS (Yet Another Financial System) (Score 1) 66

Like I've said before, this is just yet another financial system being created to have a minority of people manage the majority of the wealth, to their own advantage. This is just a new competing system with less regulation created by the crypto bros to wrestle the current system away from the Wall St. bros.

I think this view gives the crypto bros too much credit. They might now be thinking about taking advantage of the opportunity to wrestle the system away from the Wall Street bros, but there was no such plan.

Comment by some you mean.. (Score 1) 66

the company's best option might be walking away from some data center commitments.

'some' is a really funny way to spell 'most'

This is going to be one hell of shit show for Wall Street (probably not Main Street) but hoo boy is this going to pull down valuations of some big NASDAQ components... When OpenAI goes tits up, or as likely gets parted up and sold off in pieces.

Comment Re:Stop now [and just give up] (Score 1) 115

Mostly the ACK, but I largely see it as a motivational problem. The people who want money are strongly motivated and the people who just want to get along or even just want to help other people are relatively weakly motivated. It sort of worked when their ambitions for more money were sane, but at this point they have fallen off the edge of insanity.

Leading to my (crazy) conclusion of the incommensurables:

infinity << money << time << infinity

Comment Re:what AI (Score 1) 97

My main delusion remains solutions. For example, what if negative moderation reduced the moderator's likelihood of getting more mod points to squander in driving the mood into the mud? More difficult to implement, but comments with constructive suggestions or encouragement should make it more likely that identity will receive mod points to bestow. I think it would be nice to lighten the mood around here. (Then again, perhaps dark moods are the only reasonable reactions to the age of Donaldian Decadence?)

Comment It's not supposed to be profitable (Score 2, Insightful) 66

It's supposed to be the answer to the question "if nobody buys the wealthy's products how are they going to stay rich?"

The goal here is to replace as many workers as possible and eliminate the dependency on consumers.

The ultra wealthy want to go back to being like kings. Basically feudalism.

They will have a very tiny number of guildsman and scribes and a handful of knights to keep them in line.

Everyone else has a lifestyle below that of a medieval peasant because you're not even needed to tend the land anymore, they will have machines for that.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people don't realize what's happening here. Even more so there are the people who realize it but just kind of put it out of their mind because the idea of the ultra wealthy dismantling capitalism is so far outside what people view as possible that they can't emotionally comprehend it even if they can understand it intellectually.

And of course there are the numb skulls who think that they are somehow going to profit from the collapse of modern civilization. It's a big club boys and you ain't in it.

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