"Refugee papers" OMG I'm dying here...

Right, the impact here really could be quite substantive. Take a look at SOAPwn as an example. It maybe wasn't found with AI but its the kinda bug fuzzing could have found and LLMs would actually be great at generating exploits for/against.

We are not talking about an issue in some random github project that got a little to popular to fast here, were talking about vulnerability that has existed in the .NET distribution for a very long time. The recent experiences with OpenSSL are again instructive, maybe its had many eyes being FOSS for a long time but, there are still as many rocks nobody has looked under.

I think we in for a rough five years or so in terms of having to patch major tech stacks at fire drill speed. I hope I am wrong.

There is a government contract to go with this and it'll go to somebody well connected, probably Elon Musk. That was what Doge was all about. They caught a bunch of things and turned them into a juicy government contracts. The 250 million Elon spent on electing Trump was money well spent.

Everything is a grift now. Capitalism is collapsing and the only thing left is crooks trying to get the last bit of what you have out of you before the collapse.

We really need a third way. I get that nobody in this country is going to get behind socialism. Not after almost 100 years of propaganda.

But it's pretty obvious capitalism is collapsing too.

So we can't have capitalism and we can't have socialism so what's it going to be?

And we better figure out something fast because the clock's ticking and right now the third option is a total economic collapse. They're already talking about using AI to deny people Medicare and let the AI companies keep the savings. So even if you are retired you better start thinking about it

It's like accepting the Excelrrors.

Especially when there are relational databases like FileMaker Pro that will accurately save an actual database, and is so flexible, you can output files you can put into Excel, so the Microsoft crowd can be happy, and your data is safe. You can even make it display something that looks like Excel.

The Excel indoctrination and people trying to make it do stuff it wasn't designed to do has me asking people who make an excel presentation to me if they have their data saved in a real database somewhere.

FileMaker Pro seems to be one of those things that fly under the radar. When I requested it on my new work laptop, My IT guy was struck how cool it was and how simple it is to display your data any way you like, so I gave him a tour of how I use it.

One time one of our junior accountants came down, asking for some assistance with a presentation. She created her entire presentation in Excel. It was problematic. One that would have been perfect in PowerPoint, and she kinda panicked when I she saw my face. "I'm presenting tomorrow morning to the directorate!"

She was a nice kid, and I liked her, so rather than send her away, which most would have done, we did a tap-dance with her excel file to get screen caps when we could, and regular PowerPoint slides when they wouldn't work. So many hours later, we had a decent looking presentation and she aced it the next morning. She was seriously grateful. "Couldn't have done it without you - you saved me!"

Another time an engineer tried to make an instruction manual in PowerPoint. Blew through the budget. There was nothing we could do to help him. My time was flexible compared to most, but I have to put a charge number down on the time screen.

Biosphere 2 was an attempt at fully closed loop self-regulation. That doesn't work, and is not what is under discussion. The discussion is of using systems to maintain environments.

Production of oxygen is not remotely difficult. Not by plants, but again, industrial systems. Systems to make O2 from CO2 and/or water are TRL10. They exist, you can just buy them off the shelf. Same with reusable CO2 scrubbers (it's a very simple chemical process: cool = absorb CO2, hot = release CO2; they just cycle between cold and hot and whether they're connected to the input or output)..

You seem to have the idea that the proposal is just to have plants and humans life in harmony with no technology. If that were the actual proposal, I would agree with you. But that's not the actual proposal.

Yeah. Because if Mars' gravity is insufficient, and you'd have to live in rotating habitats anyways, then what are you even doing there, instead of being located e.g. on an asteroid where it's much easier to make a rotating habitat, where your surface is much more resource-rich, and where delivery and return of goods is much easier?

Venus, by contrast, I think few people doubt that its gravity would be sufficient for human life. Mars, it's *probably* enough, but it's not well studied. Moon seems like a coin toss at this point.

It's not entirely clear, but it's quite possible, arguably probable, that at least part of Venus's highlands involve fragments of ancient crust (the highlands also have milder conditions for exploration). Venus was Earthlike before Earth was, with vast warm oceans. There's also some arguments for life in the atmosphere based on gases that have been found, although I don't buy them (in the same way that I don't buy the same arguments for current surface life on Mars).

Personally, I believe that if you are happy with Microsoft products, and if it is impossible to use anything other than Microsoft, and are the business savvy smart people you are.

How many other aspects of your business that you would fail do you use? Monocultures and single points of failure aer something I always work hard to avoid. Explain how that is smarter than my silly idea of identifying and eliminating SPF's.

I understand that I am the odd man out, and that many believe that monoculture is a goal, not a liability.

These laws they are referring to, they are only fooling themselves when they pretend that they might apply to the richest people in the world. It doesn't matter how "clear" one might think trademark laws to be, when the other side can spend more on lawyers than the GDP of many small nations, you don't have a chance of winning.

All Mars trips that involve landing on Mars will be one way for the foreseeable future. We're likely 200 years away from being able to get someone back from Mars, and that's only if we find a fuel source there.

Twitter did a much better job with the bots. It did have a tough time because you can't algorithmically police right wing extremism without having it go after American Republican politicians. So right we extremism had to be manually policed. In other words racism and Nazis and whatnot. Musk solution to that problem was to just let the racists and the Nazis take over.

Now ordinarily that would be the company would rapidly go out of business because of lost users. But musk has been pumping money into it, largely with the help of the Saudi royal family. Essentially turning it into a propaganda arm of American billionaires and the Saudi elites. At least if you are consuming content on the platform besides a handful very specific people posting to it.

The real problem is that computers are just too good at figuring out relationships. That's why you can't kick Nazis off your platform using algorithms. A computer will very quickly figure out that the dog whistles the Republicans or whatever your local equivalent is are saying are dog whistles referring to racist or Nazi stuff and it'll go after those dog whistles because the computer knows that when a republican talks about welfare Queens it's no different than a Nazi talking about rounding up black people and gays. The computer knows the dog whistle and you can't program an effective algorithm that doesn't figure it out right quick.

Fairness is a weak sauce problem. Much larger problem is incentives in favor of criminals. How many Android apps are really trustworthy? "Fairness" for crooks doesn't help.

I'm increasingly convinced it's a waste of time to speculate about solutions, but I still think a "business model" tab could help a little bit. Most of the time the developer would just select from the main options, and in most of those cases the google could say yay or nay without revealing too many details. Of course there also needs to be room for new ideas and innovations, but saying what is going on would let you decide what to watch out for and also help predict how long the app will be around...

Thank you for the correction on that. I had always heard it was for the NY Times, until I looked it up on wikipedia.

I would counter though that even with the Times of London being considered a "centre-right" newspaper in the UK, it is still a "far left" paper compared to anything Trump associates himself with.

I was going to quote it, but looking at the continuation of the FP branch it apparently deserves negative moderation. (Notwithstanding the lack of clarity.) I was also going to ask for clarification about the stupid typo, but now I don't care.

One appropriate question might be "What part of the Constitution can't you understand?" Apparently all of it. Or "When did you lose your marbles?" Or even "What have you done with the real person who created that identity?"

I'd guess that it's the senility thing, but I might be projecting from my age. I was already getting up there when I registered on Slashdot, but you might have been a mere child in those years.