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Comment: Re: YANIH (Score 1) 166

by slack_justyb (#49214125) Attached to: Google Introduces Freon, a Replacement For X11 On Chrome OS
Yes, so for those reasons we should just stop making any kind of progress. You confuse my sarcasm as support for what's out there. I'm not saying they are better solutions, what I am saying is that just sticking to 70s software is neurotic at best. Yes, nothing is awesome at version 1.0, but to hear it, most people want to burn the thought of having a different opinion in the OSS community. It is going to suck at version 1.0, that's life. Invent something better, help the cause, or go hide away in your retirement home. Staying the course because inaction would be better than action is why I feel it is so humorous the current situation. So don't think I am saying Wayland or systemd is awesome, but damn they get props for rocking the boat.

Comment: Re:YANIH (Score 1) 166

by slack_justyb (#49212973) Attached to: Google Introduces Freon, a Replacement For X11 On Chrome OS

I'm going to unofficially call it as NIH being the most overused term in pretty much all technical discussion boards. I would say that NIH has reach near if not equal to Godwin's law status. Therefore, the next person to bring up NIH, we should all collectively treat such statements as useless banter and move on with our lives.

Apparently if someone purposes or actually implements something that wasn't purposed or implemented back in the 1970s, it automatically classifies that new thing as NIH. Because everyone knows that the 70s were the apparent height of computer technology and neckbeards. Screw idealism, you'll take X and it's fifty million extensions from my cold dead hands! And I like my start up scripts like I like my Egyptian tombs, hard to understand and full of things to trap and destroy you! Now get off my lawn!!

Comment: Re:I'm worried (Score 1) 151

by slack_justyb (#48137623) Attached to: Z Machine Makes Progress Toward Nuclear Fusion

The problem with a black hole target, other than the obvious inability to make a miniature black hole that can be stable enough to fire something at it, would be that while the two protons may or may not fuse in the heart of the black hole, we will never know because they have crossed the event horizon and the energy they may or may not produce is now beyond our ability to detect and to a greater degree use.

Just saying

Comment: I commented because I could not mod in good faith. (Score 4, Insightful) 142

by slack_justyb (#47940803) Attached to: Oracle CEO Larry Ellison Steps Down

I just couldn't stomach the idea of up-voting all of the ding-dong the witch is dead comments, no matter how much I wanted to blow all my mod point here. Instead I'll just add to the crush of Ellison hate, especially considering the whole notion of copyrighting APIs that the smug dickface motherfucker is trying to pander to make a few quick ones from Google.

Comment: Re:Simple set of pipelined utilties! (Score 1) 385

by slack_justyb (#47931285) Attached to: Torvalds: No Opinion On Systemd

"Oh wait you're serious, let me laugh harder!" It's always funny how Futurama quotes so aptly apply to trolls.

And yeah, syslog and how it works is indefensible. So if you're writing your DB logs to the same place init is writing, you've got bigger issues about your Unix administration and why you are writing banking transactions to syslog and not its own log. Unless the point was to take a completely unrelated topic and try to shoehorn it into the conversation.

Comment: Re:Simple set of pipelined utilties! (Score 4, Interesting) 385

by slack_justyb (#47927401) Attached to: Torvalds: No Opinion On Systemd

The complaint is that the process at PID 1 should be simple.

That's just passing the buck. What you don't do in PID 1, needs to be done by PID 2 or 3 or 4...

One has to understand that system start up is a complex task. Systemd, sysvinit, launchd, and what-not are just a matter of optics, no matter which one you choose, you are only changing how you look at the problem, you aren't making the problem any easier. That's the important thing to remember, that all of these inits are just different views on how to solve the problem. No matter how many times you break the process up (into PID 4 through 380), it's still a complex task that needs to get done.

That said, sysvinit comes with the idea that you're going to have a lot of people looking inward at what's been done historically, they're going to make really useful tools, and the expectation is that those that follow will use those tools. That's nice and there is a real benefit for that, but that's not what vendors are going after, that's not what third-parties want, and that's not what end-consumers want. The only people that sysvinit caters to any more is developers and neck-breads. Vendors are going to write their own tools for start up. Third-parties are going to package up the process into something that can be simply delivered to the customer. Standard end-users just don't give a shit so long as the screen comes up. Heck, even server admins won't really care so long as management can still log in. There just isn't clientele for the old way. That's not to say that the old way isn't useful, but honestly you are asking a bunch of Pepsi drinkers to switch over to Coke for just the sake of "it is easier to make."

SystemD puts all the cards closer together, this allows smaller teams to do useful stuff, and let's face it, the number of people writing kernel, sub-system, and start up code is only going to keep dropping. The hotness is much, much higher up. Vendors like systemd because it works better than script->call program in their deployment cycle. Now they can use systemd reporting to bubble back up into the UI as oppose to writing to some arcane log file. No one can defend the old log files, they seriously were so confusing that there are companies that you can hire and tools that you can buy that can turn your log file into something easier to read. That's just indefensible. I'm not saying that systemd is some magical power that's turned a turd into gold (starting up a system is still a pain in the ass), but it serves a wider group that more than likely (as all the neck-beards die off from old age) will be maintaining this whole thing in the longer term and simplifies something that has gone from, "it was good and easy" to "holy crap! The log file is 23MB!!" Back when we were starting up an FTP server and that's about it, it was great, but now that every sub-system from the kernel feels a need to write to the log on top of everything else that you vendor starts up, it's just a flipping mess.

It's important to remember the Unix way, but systems have gotten so complex we just don't do it that way in reality anymore.

Comment: Re:First world problems. (Score 1) 610

I guess the more insightful comment would have been. "I want my technological device to contain stuff I CHOOSE, not stuff chosen for me. This is going to become an ever increasing problem as every f***ing company want ever intrusive ads so you always have an opportunity to buy something."

The problem is not Apple's alone. We are increasing our cross section of our daily lives with technology, thus with a wider cross section, there's bound to be more and more interactions between us and some sort of marketing or ad gimmick that a company has paid for. While I get that no one wants that crap (and neither do I), this ad revenue does prop up some services that we take for granted for some folks.

Perhaps the conversation we all should be having is, are we okay with becoming an end point for ads, in exchange for really useful stuff? Or do we need things like email and search to take a more HBO approach to things?

Comment: Re:What? (Score 2) 200

Where the ISP argument breaks down is that, ESPN forced people who wanted their content to either pay or have a cable subscription. So if I didn't want to pay and didn't have cable, I'd have to find my "ESPN fix" (like I would have one) elsewhere, which most likely I could at something like any other flipping news site. But let's say that I can't do that. Well, then I guess I'll have to invent something to compete with ESPN. The flip side of that equation is if I don't like my cable company, I'm basically fucked. I have no other option and I cannot build something to compete with them (in the cable biz at least) because my county has laws on the books that prevent that kind of crap.

That is the big difference. A content provider tries to extort fees and we can find something else. A cable company randomly asks to fuck you in the ass and you have absolutely no choice about it. There literally is no one else. So this "mega" edge threat they are bitching about is not even a flipping issue, it's not even remotely an issue. To make the argument that the cable companies are making here would be like to argue how highways compete with airports. Yes they both have paved surfaces, but if you don't understand how one gets you to the other, then you're a fucking insane money twat.

I think at this point Comcast should just start cycling commercials showing Brian Roberts on his mega yacht looking real sad saying, "if you don't give me a total monopoly on the Internet, then I won't be able to expand my six bedroom, three bath yacht. I mean c'mon, if I can't do that, then how will my other 23 fucking houses that I own all over the world feel?" Because at this point, this guy is just going for bragging rights over how much he can truly extort from people.

PS: If you can't tell I have a very large dislike for Comcast/NBC and good comment there guy.

Comment: Re:On behalf of all network specialists, (Score 4, Insightful) 197

by slack_justyb (#47212563) Attached to: Latin America Exhausts IPv4 Addresses

If the bulk of human history isn't a lesson. Pretty much no one does anything until all hell is breaking loose. I don't know if it is in our genetics or what.

At any rate. A lot of "technical" folk will say, let's use NAT! And that will work for maybe a few years, maybe a decade or so, but then eventually that will break down. Finally, people will just shrug their shoulders and say, "Well, I guess it's finally time we switched over to IPv6." IPv6 is indeed the solution, but we've first got to do every other solution just because for some reason that's who we are.

So IPv4 isn't going away any time soon but for all the wrong reasons. So they will continue to not listen to any specialists till ALL other options are completely exhausted. Then after all of that we'll finally get to move on to the next big thing that was purposed twenty years ago.

Comment: Re:A fifth horseman (Score 4, Insightful) 449

Yeap, this guy had a golden chance to make a cause and blew it by standing by people who kill other innocent people. Having a cause is one part knowing what to do and three parts getting the general public to like your cause. Using people who kill that general public tends to make them not like you all that much.

Nobody's gonna believe that computers are intelligent until they start coming in late and lying about it.

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