So your claim is that the bug you are talking about is unknown? That you haven't seen it? My, that's quite a problem in logic, isn't it?

There seems to be a big chasm opening in the Linux world. Not to worry though, there is stable Linux out there. There are two forks of Gnome and a large variety of alternative desktops to choose from. You can still install Jessie without systemd and Devuan, Slackware, and Gentoo intend to keep that option open.

As for the lockup bug in TFA, in most projects, the kernel versions in question would be internal release only. The outside world would never see them. For example, my debian system is on 3.16 even when I enabled the backports repo.

The final bit, not all soft lockups are fatal. They are never a good thing, but they sometimes just indicate that something is taking longer than it was ever expected to and it needs to either be speeded up or broken into more manageable pieces so something else gets a chance to run.

There's the problem, dependencies out the wazoo. And no, that is not par for the course for system tools in Linux. Look at ldd /sbin/init. Those are the only dependencies. To have a 'normal' system, you'll need to add a shell (ldd /bin/bash)

It's like choosing a door on "Let's make a Deal".

Uselessd requires code patches to relax the coupling. That means the code was more tightly coupled before. It bolsters my claim that systemd is gratuitously coupled to make it harder to rip out OR that it is a poorly executed project. Hanlon suggests the latter, so I'll go with that.

Were your claim true, there wouldn't be a uselessd project.

We keep trying, and even changing our selection after the first goat is revealed, but we keep getting goats. I'm not sure any of the doors have a car behind them.

If they make you wait in jail longer than the average sentence would last, they should have to let you go free and clear.

I think it was two years ago in Atlanta that a judge ruled exactly that and let a lot of people awaiting trial for minor offenses go.

Tar and feathers come to mind...

Still, that's a LOOONG time to be locked in a cage like an animal compared to a misdemeanor and a fine.

Oh, I didn't mean to imply that anyone was being malicious. Unwise, perhaps.

Most of us call a mere 14,000 hits, even on a tiny VM, another day at the office. It really doesn't cost much to do a whois and send a quick log extract to the relevant abuse contact (if it's even in the top 10 offenders).

Loser pays is dangerous in civil suits where a small entity sues a large entity. Even the most meritorious case can be lost.

In criminal cases, the prosecutor's office should be on the hook when the defendant isn't found guilty. Not just for legal fees, but for restitution for time spent incarcerated, loss of employment (if that happens), other consequential damages (eviction, missed payments, etc) and publicity to make it well known the defendant was not guilty.

My main assertion is that many forks are done with good intentions. This new fork, on the other hand, is not necessarily based on the best motivations.

Uselessd addresses not only the packaging but the excessively tight coupling of components.

The fact that a small team could make such substantial changes shows that it really is a lack of maturity in the design/implementation of systemd.