And that was what I consider the real issue. I don't give a damn if MS installed IE on those computers I was forced to buy with an MS operating system on them. It was trivial enough to install another browser, but unless I wanted to take the time to build my own computers from parts and then have basically no warranty on the system as a whole, I had to pay MS for their OS. And that points out that having an MS OS on the system wasn't the issue, it was having to PAY for the privilege.

And you ought to know that I was buying those systems with grant money, which means the taxpayer was actually paying for an OS that was going to be deleted as soon as the system got here.

MS also installs 'explorer' on all their systems, but you could buy Norton commander. Is the fact that 'explorer' was part of the MS bundle a problem? No.

If you are disabling an app so it cannot be used at all, why do you care that you have to remove an update to the very app you don't want in the first place? Others have pointed out the technical reason for the way it is.

The real issue back then was that MS required OEMs to install MS OS on every computer they sold if they wanted to install it on ANY computer they sold. That's why you didn't have an option of buying a pre-built computer without Windows. I ought to know, I had to buy alot of them.

You may be thinking of transponders with Mode C. I don't know of any airspace where TCAS is required for all aircraft, but class B requires Mode C. At least in the US.

I don't see how you could have gotten that from anything I wrote. I didn't talk about male scientists, and I didn't prove anyone was corrupt, I spoke about the impression that the public can get when one group of scientists points the finger at another group.

Whoosh.

Actually I expected this level of FanBoi response it is a real shame that people don't bother to read anymore.
"He said Tesla will remain a "fringe brand" until it launches its next generation of vehicles and the smaller, less expensive Model 3. "

Just how right can anyone be. The current Tesla is in the same price range as the Audi A8, MB S Class, and BMW 7 series. In other words a lot more than the average annual income in the US.
When it launches the Model 3 and if it can for a good price it will be moving into the mainstream.

So exactly how is this in anyway ignoring them or even fighting them. Sounds like simple facts and observation to me.

What I don't understand is why you think the story about NBC editing the Zimmerman call was right wing fud?
They did edit it in a way to make Zimmerman seem like he was a racist. Editing that call was wrong no matter what side you are on.
Samzenpus posts lots of extreme anti nuclear stuff all the time as well. Maybe he just likes to troll both sides?

Humm. The problem that Google is trying to solve is that some companies "Verizon" sold a phone with Bing as the default and locked in search engine.
Most Android users really did not like that.
And you do not have to install any Google apps to use Android but if you want to load any of the Google Apps you have to install all of the apps.

And in "Scorpion", where we learned that nobody can land anything if the tower software is out of operation, that transcontinental aircraft carry a copy of the ATC routing software, that those aircraft have a cat5 cable hanging around in the equipment bay that can be dropped out a wheel well so a hacker can download the software, that an ATC software failure can disable the red/green light guns that are installed in towers explicitly to deal with communications failures, that the data archive disk for the ATC software has a label "FAA" on it, that right handed data server managers put their important servers on the right side of the room, that a 500,000 kW glitch in the power grid will cause data center doors to open, ... OMG.

The only reason to watch that show is for the mom. I recorded it and I'm keeping it, if for no other reason that to have something to point at as an example of really really really bad technical content in a prime time program. I can't wait to see what they slaughter tonight.

The FAA cannot reject your flight plan. The clearance they give you may not match what you ask for, but they'll give you something. And, as you continued, you'll definitely get something if you are an FAA-operated aircraft transporting FAA personnel to repair an out-of-service FAA facility.

You know, that statement right there shows why the public has no problem believing that scientists can be just as corrupt as politicians. It's not the "bad ones" who have created the problem, it is the "good ones" who dismiss anything any scientist who is "paid off by the fossil fuel industry" says just because of who they work for.

Once you have one part of a group pointing fingers at the others saying "they're corrupt", it is not very hard at all to think that all of them could be. I mean, if who pays you determines what your results are, then why wouldn't someone being paid on a grant to study one aspect of climate change be likely to find just what he's being paid to find? Even if it is nothing more than unidentified confirmation bias, if who pays you can point you to your results, then that applies no matter who pays you.

Why would none of the academics publish biased results?

1. There's no profit. Of course there is. Grants go to people studying new and/or important things. If you say "there's nothing to see here" your grant doesn't get renewed. You have to go find something else to work on so you'll get paid. Unlike people with real jobs, academics don't get paid with their employer's money, they get paid from grant money.

2. Someone would snitch. Of course. And then that someone would wind up without HIS grant because a) nobody likes a snitch, and b) "there's nothing to see here" applies. Unlike someone with a real job, academic grants go through "peer review" and if your peers decide that your work is banal and obvious, you don't get your grant.

Of course, the bias may not be deliberate, it may just influence what "outliers" get thrown out.

If you don't think there are egos involved in academic science, you've never worked in academia. If you don't think there is back scratching going on all the time, ditto. There is a limited amount of money being pulled in a large number of directions. Anyone who says "there's nothing to see here" jeopardizes everyone working in that field, and those humans called "scientists" can still do what humans tend to do when something jeopardizes their income.

Personally, I just wish those "good ones" would stop accusing their colleagues of being bought off, because it besmirches the entire process of science. If you can't counter their science with your own, then maybe you need to look at your own science first. This "you've been bought off so you are wrong" argument throws mud on the recipient, but a lot of it splashes back on the thrower.

The same evidence the "good one" have regarding the "bad ones".

So they do not believe in science?
Over 16 thousand people died from the tsunami.
According to the World health organisation report the expected deaths from radiation are below the statistical limits of detection.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...
In other words water is far more deadly than a worst case nuclear disaster.

You mean the same Germans that are building more coal fired power plants?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/...

Yeah Solar supplements natural gas peaking power. It does not compete with Coal...
Yeah you have just proved my point.

It's a debit card. The fact you can use it to pay for something at the checkout doesn't make it a credit card. There is no credit involved.

All debit cards are like that. And that's why even if your card issuer promises low liabilities for lost or stolen cards, you may have an empty checking account for the entire time it takes to resolve the problem. Compare that to a credit card where the issuer is prohibited by law from acting on any charge that you are disputing.