No idea how to interpret english translations of latin texts that are translations of greek texts that are translations of aramaic texts.

So, you want to prove something which can not be proven for all mankinds religions by a christian bible text? Or is that indeed from the thora/old testament and can be considered jewish?

This indicates you have no clue:
But Creationists claim that it is by cleverness and science that they can prove that the universe was formed at Godâ(TM)s command, rather than by faith as the Bible says.
How should the universe be "created" be Faith? When all "book religions" agree: God made it so! ??
Did your argument somehow backfire, did you lose track?

My point is pretty simple: Faith does not contradict science. A single ... how is that called in english? ... a paragraph, perhaps, in the Bible does not contradict that. How many "believers" know about that paragraph anyway, have read it and 'agree with it'?

Hm, but looking at your quotes, I believe they are not even in the bible but from various letters of Paulus I assume, hence we are already in the pitfalls of "interpretation"!

Of course if you are "Faithful" you should consider how your Faith fits into modern "common knowledge" ... but I for my part have no problem to accept Faith of others, as long as they accept: I'm an Atheist ... however I consider to coin a new term ... not sure how to call it yet, but atheists that turn out as agressive antitheists is not my thing. Leave us alone, we leave you alone. As simple as that.

I don't think an "ElevatorGate" is an answer to any question I made.

I reject this aspiration. I think this manic desperation to endlessly extend life is misguided and potentially destructive. For many reasons, 75 is a pretty good age to aim to stop.
Endlessly ... not at our technology level.
However why would anyone die at 75 (voluntarily?) when he can live healthy and happy till 90 (and die with 100)?

This is Hiroshi Tada: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
I believe he is now 84. Last years All Japan Aikido Demonstration. When you are close to him you would estimate him for "approaching 70" ... ten years ago you could had hold him for an old looking 50 year old. That guy is incredible fit, when he gives seminars even the best trained 30 year old "attackers" are completely worked out in 3 minutes.

I have been on a few of his seminars. If you are an aikidoka and have the chance to see him, do so! He is the greatest living master of Aikido!

Ofc at 'this age' he is now a bit slower, but google for his previous demonstrations ...

Btw he is not one of the "soft" guys ... he believes in projecting your own power (but that is also the reason why he became a bit slower recently) nevertheless: as he is aging now, take your chance and visit his seminars in Switzerland or Italy!

So i for my part prefer to get old :D

If someone is comparing religious texts with scientific attempts to debunk them, like claiming Jesus might be story from a novel, then he is not an atheist. Even if he claims so.
Atheists are not bothered about such stuff ... except they happen to be "theological researchers".

So making sentences like "Atheists do this" and then start formulating your theories is simply a mistake.

However you dug out an interesting article, I was close to post something in its tenor to this thread but decided otherwise.

So? You link something that supports my argument without any sentence of "what you think about it"?

What is the point of that?

Let me link you something without any explanation/argument :D

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap14...

Perhaps you should read what you link instead of copy pasting your first google result.

The author of that "comparison" or right side of the table, is given at the bottom of it.

So you found one "idiot" who is a self proclaimed Atheist and you conclude "all atheists" do this ... good luck with your further arguments :D

Lol, I oversaw your (they don't need to hear it) phrase .... and now you make such a fuzz ...

I'm not interested in ElevatorGate stories ... so no, I have not googled it :D

A sorry, obviously I thought about holes for screws or similar devices. For a display that makes sense, I guess they laser the holes?

Ah, sorry for the misunderstanding.
I assumed you would be speaking or at least read greek and where interested in a civilized dispute about such stuff. I explain you my "thought process" you explain me yours ... we germans, and for that matter the greeks really like that.

I did not realize that you are just a pretending asshole, the stuff you claim "I had written" in your last post I actually don't have.
Example:
the German pronunciation of any word in any dialect of any language is proper, and the only people in the world who disagree are English speakers who are somehow all dumber than you.

So, just because you neither can read greek nor speak it, obviously, you have the right to insult, harass even someone whom's arguments you obviously can't follow?

Wow ... but that is /. and I even had you marked green since years ... pft.

For very large values of two it is!
The sum can even approach six!

So you are a a scientist working in the field of comparing religions?
Or how do you come to the strange definition of what religion is?
Why don't you simple read the wikipedia article and be done with it?
Religion is a cult of destruction, science is a cult of creation.
That is the biggest nonsense I heard on /. for ages!
War is the mother of most science! Sounds harsh?

So, Leonardo da Vinci and Michel Angelo where not scientists, because they where firm believers in god? Or Galileo Galilei, for that matter? Or Albert Einstein?

The typical nonsense claims again, please rewrite your whole post and replace 'we' (whoever the group is you beleive that we is aprobriated for) with 'I', that 'I' would mean YOU

Do you really believe a single scientist loses his coutiosity and stops working on decivering the way how DNA/RNA works, just because it is proven that 'god exists'?

People discussioning like you, hurt everyone: the religious people by procaliming they are dumb idiots, as well as the scientists, proclaiming they are dumb idiots, too and can not work in the face of god and basically every one who simply 'does not care'.

Basically all argumentations here in this thread about 'why god hurts sience' or mankind never had progressed 'if everyone believed in god' are complete nonsense.

Gues what: was Albert Einstein religious, yes/no?

You are mistaken.
Science does not tell us why the universe exists.
In only tells us how it likely came into existence.

Religions tell us 1000's of other answers which do not resemble either the scientific reason nor each other... so which one am I supposed to trust?

Depends on your religion, obviously. Or why did you make this argument? Are you indeed one of the guys who uses 'science' as ersatz religion?

Religion is a business trying to safeguard a collection of fables and myths in order to sell you something that doesn't exist and won't help you in the slightest.
If you believe that, then you don't know what a religion or the concept of religion actually is.
I guess you never had 'religion' classes in school, and the only one you have marginal knowledge about is the predominant one in your grandparents life. Hint: read a book about religions.

Else you could scientifically test for God's existence, and then where would faith be?
Erm ... you want to imply that a guy who has faith in god X loses that faith as soon as the existence of X is scientificly prooven?
Did you make a scientific/psychological study about a decent percentage of mankind, that supports this claim of yours?

Your paragraph in the middle about atheists is nonsense ... why don't you simply use the word 'people' or the phrase 'some people' instead of always labeling the people you talk about with a wrong label?

No arheist is so stupid to deny a persion who is a historical fact (be it Buddha or Jesus)... sigh, you must be rearly confused!