It only sucks to the inane people. There are several huge technical communities over that they have a massively lower noise to signal ratio. If you want to talk tech and not cat photos, G+ is where it's at.

The Sport Touring community on G+ destroys the one on FB.

I dispose of companies when their services are no longer needed. I show the as much loyalty as they show me. Isn't that what Economists say I should be doing? Looking out for my best interest and to heck with everyone else? If every one does this and follows thr princople of "Greed is Good" then the new Garden of Eden will sprout up spontaneously.

Nope.

You get to run their web installer for free for the first year, after that get out the credit card.

You obviously don't work on Wall Street.

"It's free for 1 year. If you wait more than a year to upgrade, you have to pay."

Translation

It's free for 1 year. If you have to reinstall after that year because you had to replace or upgrade your hard drive or it crapped it's self because of an update, you have to pay.

But if you need to do a re-install.... well then you can buy a full retail price copy.

Metalized low-E glass really limits that stuff as well as aluminum siding. The magnetic paint sold for kids rooms also will create a very high reflective barrier to significantly hamper this tech.

Very true. Old VB6 was useful. The current VB is a convuluted horrid mess that is only there because Microsoft wanted everyone to hate it so much they migrated to C#

Not talking about desktop, I was talking about the mobile market. Which they definitely don't have 90% of...

Kinda right, kinda wrong...

See http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/arc...

Problem is nobody cares. All anyone cares about is the apps and when the app you want or need to run is a traditional PC UI it will not translate to a touch UI automatically.

So windows will suck on touch devices like it always has, because of the apps that we want and need to run.

I have a Surface Pro and while it's nice it's still clunky as hell, Windows 10 will not fix this because honestly Windows is 100% crap for a touch interface. The software and OS are not designed for touch and therefore will be clunky.

Windows 10 for laptops.
Windows Touch for touch devices.

Stop trying to unify the two because IT WILL NOT WORK. windows 8 sucks horribly on a laptop but works nice on a tablet. windows 10 is awesome on a laptop but SUCKS on a tablet. (Yes I tried living with it on my surface pro for 4 weeks. it sucks as much as windows 7 does and windows 8.1 does when using non touch apps)

So unless they fire all their management and design teams and start over with people that understand that the two ecosystems are different and need to remain separate nothing will change.

Proof that your touch UI and OS is crap when your users of your flagship device use a mouse and keyboard with it most of the time.

Di Hydrogen Monoxide is in EVERY pesticide and Chemical solution out there. IT MUST BE BANNED!
People die from Over exposure to it constantly!

Not trying to start a flame war, but what would companies use instead? Lotus Notes? Open Office? (Although LibreOffice is my primary suite at home, I don't see how it fits into a business environment as well as MS Office)

I don't think any of it is perfect, but they really are pretty much the best solution for business at this time. I don't see anything better to switch to.

It's better on the inside, especially the DLL sharing. (Rather than each running app having a separate in-memory copy of a DLL, now if separate apps have the same DLL dependency, then there's only one copy in memory. Probably my favorite feature of Windows 8)

But the interface still sucks. I've used 8.1 as my primary desktop OS for almost a year now (Stock install, no Start Menu third party add-ons), and while it's a solid OS, there's still so much missing from the Metro interface.

Recently used documents is the thing I miss the most.

And just exploring through the tree-based Start Menu is something I really miss. I end up with so much stuff installed I forget some of it. Would occasionally just surf thru the Start menu to re-discover stuff. But with 8.1, if you don't remember it, you're not going to find it. Sure you can go page by page through all the listed stuff, but that's far more inefficient than being able to walk through a tree-based menu.