Personally? I think you're a moron for using GDP as a valid way to allocate water resources. Seriously? Where did that idea even come from?......When a residential consumer drinks water, they are producing 0% of GDP.....You need to think a little more before responding.

That isn't true, and hasn't been true for years. Farmers are promised 80% of the state's water, but even in good years they haven't been getting that for a while. This year farmers are getting less than half the water that they've been promised.

Incidentally, the water fights between urban and rural dwellers have been going on for well over a century, and will probably continue far into the future. "Stupid farmers, taking all the water." "Stupid city slickers, what are they going to eat?"

Not the past few years......farmers have been getting 50% (or less) of their normal amount of water. This year, for example, an almond farmer near Manteca who is used to getting 48 inches a year will be lucky to get 18 inches.

It's way older than that. In the early 1800s people were complaining that government was wasting money on canal infrastructure projects, digging canals so shipping could travel across the US. People complained that the canals could have been dug much more cheaply by the private sector.

Most of the arguments we have in politics go back all the way to the beginning in one form or another. It's kind of amazing.

Why date it to then, instead of the blossoming under Charlamagne?

Let me spell it out for you.

You are not qualified to discuss this topic.

I sincerely hope that changes in the future so we can have an interesting conversation. For now you are ignorant.

That's silly, there were constant wars going on during the times of the Roman Empire. It was called Pax Romana because it was peaceful compared to what came after.

No. Through most of history, Western Europe has been a wasteland of culture......starting around a thousand years BC, a small corner of the region (Greece) started getting some culture, but the rest was still a garbage heap of warring tribes, mainly until the Renaissance.

Of course, then Europe made a fairly tremendous leap forward, but that was relatively recent in historical terms.