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Comment Re:If they want to do some good they should share (Score 1) 39

BTW: for my classes, giving full authority to a department head, who doesn't even teach at my school or at my level, meant I got an edict of "No programming!"

You've got to change that. Find a way to convince him. Use your social engineering skills, whatever it takes.

Comment Re:Bullshit (Score 1) 654

Replacing systemd say 20 years from now will be very difficult. Essentially the modules will each need to be reimplemented in a way that's backwards compatible, offers what the future features are and allows partial implementation.

The next post I am working on is trying to figure out how stable the interfaces have been over time, but man, that's such a miserable thing to research! lol

Comment Re:BSD is looking better all the time (Score 1) 654

The problem isn't init scripts it is what to do with chains of dependencies on high availability. If you worked in Linux-HA think about the application specific restart code that each application had to do and how fragile it all was.

Yes, we were constantly thinking of restarting things, but systemd wouldn't help with the majority of that. The applications themselves need to be written with restart in mind, and that's where the difficulty really comes in. (actually we spent most of our time trying to create a novel system for nodes to discover each other, but that isn't related)

They all want an much richer environment of management tools. In real life I've never met anyone who thinks systemd is too thick, they all argue it is too thin.

It sounds like they are looking at things from a feature perspective, not an architecture perspective. Those are cool features, but architecturally, continuous test doesn't really belong in the init system.

That said, if systemd were modular, someone could build an init system that offered those services, and swap it out for systemd on large systems. I still don't think that would be a good idea architecturally.....systemd is designed to deal with local problems and events. When dealing with a cluster, restarting local processes is about the easiest part of the problem. Building on the systemd framework wouldn't get you much (and because of its instability, you will lose things).

I have to say though, building a system on the cloud with all those features looks really, really fun to me. Especially if it had ridiculous problems like interfacing with old, archaic software.

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