Comment Re:Shorter d_r: (Score 1) 67
Oh, and you "know" all of the politics and legalities and intrigues. As though it wasn't ALL charades, from end to end, subsequent to the departure from common sense. Which was my point, after all.
And if I am to believe the polls
I believe the polls exist. I also believe that if you don't have access to the questions, methodology, and funding source, you're the sound of one hand with the clap.
Nobody watching it would have mistaken it for a serious attempt to evaluate the Robin.
Nobody watching TopGear should take anything they do as a serious attempt to evaluate anything.
Even an Ebola vaccine that was only effective for a short period of time would be wonderful. Ebola isn't a subtle disease, and outbreaks tend to start in fairly isolated villages, perhaps because the reservoir is an animal. When someone in a village starts bleeding out of every orifice, administer the vaccine to everyone in the village. That stops the outbreak in it's tracks.
"Oh, it would have only lasted 55 miles on our track!" SO FUCKING WHAT? That's a frigging RACE you retarded shitepile!
You do realize topgear runs pretty much every car that comes in on its track right? Every other car however, can be filled up and driven home immediately afterwards. That's a fairly signficant difference between other cars and the Tesla. They decided to make much ado about that point. Accept it and move on.
How long would a car able to go so fast last on the same track? 50-80 miles tops.
Did you not read my post? I actually answered that. I said 55 wasn't that bad on the track. I said my 911 needed to be filled up twice on a track day, plus a 3rd time to go home. I figure I was getting around 3-4 mpg... my range wouldn't be much better than a Tesla.
But I could (and did) fill it in the space of time it took to wolf down a sandwich... twice; and then get back onto the track. My track day in a Tesla would have been... cut shorter to say the least; and I'd have had to sit around for a while charging it up again to go home too.
And it would beat the same sized car in acceleration and speed OR in range on the racetrack. No similar car could beat it on all three. You'd need a proper "road legal" racer for that.
That's just fangirl talk. It wins drag races. That's about it.
Here's the Tesla S at the Nurburgring
http://ecomento.com/2014/07/10...
The car overheated around 5 miles in. Without overheating they figured around 9 minutes. That's pretty good (but it didn't actually do it... what with the overheating.) And 9 minutes while very good is NOT amazing. LOTS of high performance 4 door sedans can do that... Mercedes C55, BMW 335i, Audi S5... are all comfortably sub 9 minute cars.
I like Tesla. I like the car. I like what the company is doing to the automotive world. But I don't want to own one (at least not one they've made so far). Its a pretty amazing car, and the torque is phenomenal... it wins drag races against almost everything.
Its a good car, but not as good your making it out to be.
. Any experienced sports car driver, like Clarkson claiks to be, could roll a Reliant Robin over inside of 50 yards
And if I'd originally written 50 you'd have claimed it should only need 25. No real point even engaging. The point remains that he set out to make the robin look like all it does is roll over, when lots of people have managed to drive one without constantly going over.
As for 'antics', punching somebody in the face isn't 'off-screen antics', it's assult with intent.
I am not defending the assault, per se; nor was i even referring to it; By off screen antics I meant his persona in general. His columns, his books, his political views, his public appearances... etc.
it's that they faked it breaking down.
Cite?
All the coverage I can find of a "fake breakdown" is simply an alternate phrasing for their "dramatization" of it running out of juice, and then being pushed into the garage.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i...
That said, the drivetrain did overheat on one, and the brakes did fail on the other one. (Yes they abused them... but that's what they do. And plenty of other super and hyper cars have broken down on them too and they've taken the piss out of them too.)
Even then, Clarkson was too thick to work out how to use the charger so didn't get maximum benefit from it.
And he wasn't able to run a Reliant Robin more than a 100 yards without rolling it over either. He's Clarkson... his persona for like 15+ years is to be a bit of hooligan gorilla. Taking his on-screen and off-screen antics seriously... says more about the viewer than it does about Clarkson. Its not fair and balanced journalism. Sit back and enjoy the spectacle.
I've seen that episode several times. I like the Tesla, but I think Top Gear made a good point.
Clarkson's show also claimed a Tesla ran out of electric power after 55 miles when the claimed range was 200 miles.
The actual quote:
âoeAlthough Tesla say it will do 200 miles we worked out that on our track it would run out after just 55 miles.â
55 miles on their TRACK.
55 miles on a track isn't really even that bad... but it would be a terrible track day car. I had to fill my 911 twice last time I took it to a track, and then again to get it home. But a complete fill on my car takes less than 5 minutes at the gas station next to the track. A tesla owner would not have that luxury.
the BBC admitted in court that the scene where the car ran out of power was faked.
Not "faked", but yes it was was done purely for dramatic effect.
And, again, in context, it was simply illustrating the point that after a day on the track the car would be dead; and wouldn't make the trip home. (without another lengthy recharge.)
Only a Tesla fangirl would get all twisted up in knots over the episode. It was a legitimate criticism delivered with typical Topgear dramatic sensibilities. (Ie 'over the top') But Clarkson and the gang routinely slag excellent cars and its all in pretty good humor. Clarkson has called the 911 Turbo a car that plots to kill its driver, and compared the Carrera 4S to a boob job... meanwhile he fell over himself in adulation of the Ford GT which he pre-ordered for himself and which had proven to be something of a lemon to actually own... "leeway" is what the audience wants from that show.
There are plenty of other places to get 'boring'. Few magazines ever say anything remotely critical of anything. Its pretty refreshing and entertaining to see these supercars and hypercars both shown in their best lights but also to see them taken down a peg now and again. To see a ferrari stuck in an alley it's too wide for, to watch them try and park a lambo, to see them collectively decide a cheap VW hatchback is more fun to drive than a BMW... that's what made TopGear.
When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle. - Edmund Burke
