Comment Re:I don't see the problem. (Score 1) 667
Even the manpads that can't reach that altitude aren't the sort of thing you can buy easily on the black market. If it was then we wouldn't be hearing about people dying to barrel bombs in Syria because the helicopters chucking them out would be easy pickings.
Similarly, we'd likely have had terrorist incidents of terrorists shooting down airliners on landing or take off with them.
The fact we haven't speaks volumes as to how obviously supplied by Russia this kit is. The closest we've seen of even manpads used after black market sales is a few stinger launches in Afghanistan against NATO aircraft and even these are likely just the one or two stingers given to the Mujahideen in the 80s to fight the soviets whose batteries still just about worked.
A large part the reason this kit doesn't appear on the black market more prominently is because it has a shelf life, the missiles and batteries have to be maintained/replaced, so even if you do leak one it's only good for a short while. Hence why the Ukrainian military helos shot down by manpads were almost certainly shot down by manpads given to the separatists directly from the Russian government, because there were a number of them and they were all obviously in perfect working order. You just don't get that kind of haul of manpads anywhere other than from a nation state - again, if you did, then the Taliban and Al Qaeda would've been having a field day against NATO aircraft in Iraq/Afghanistan, against Syrian aircraft in Syria, and against Gaddaffi's forces in the Libyan civil war.