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Comment Is there anything to actually recommend Spartan ? (Score 0) 153

As it stands the only way I use I.E. is if my mouse hand decided to pull a Dr. Strangelove on me https://www.youtube.com/watch?... (for those that won't get the ref)

I mean what insanity is microsoft trying this time to get people to use it ? Hijacking other browsers display windows ?

Comment Try to learn how to read (Score 1) 334

My steatement

Nobody recycles batteries for the lithium. A small amount get recycled for cobalt

your link

The Umicore battery recycling technology
“Product” is comprised of an alloy that’s refined into cobalt, nickel and other metals

And exactly why

http://www.altenergystocks.com...

Battery Chemistry
        Metal Value Per Ton
Lithium cobalt oxide $25,000
Lead acid $1,400
Lithium iron phosphate $400
Lithium manganese $300

The batteries aren't being recycled for the lithium.

Hope you didn't put too much of your money in Tesla

Comment Re:Re-read your link (Score 1) 334

I'll let you split hairs about processing vs refining.

And yes, China, along with Europe, push for the DIRTY mining of Lithium. They are pretty bad, but they want it cheap.

If it isn't cheap it's not economical.

OTOH, Here in America, we are finding the lithium from heated brine solutions down below. In particular, we are bringing up brine solutions for geo-thermal electricity and then pulling the lithium out after the fact, and then re-injecting the cleaned up water back into the hole.

Which is why we don't have enough to supply our need.

http://minerals.usgs.gov/miner...

Here in America, we are recycling our lithium batteries. It is Europe that is dirty WRT to not recycling it. Sadly, Europe would rather scream about somethings, while ignoring the real damage that they do to the earth.

Nobody recycles batteries for the lithium. A small amount get recycled for cobalt That will change as the price of lithium rises, of course as that happens we are back to economics..

Comment Re:Talk about creating a demand (Score 1) 334

To make an analogy, coal emits more radiation per megawatt during its normal operation than nuclear power plants have released cumulatively, even including the worst disasters.

All that does is demonstrate the public's innumeracy about the dangers radiation. You can say similar things about granite buildings.

Yes. Moreover, any effect it did have would be worth it compared to the benefit of avoiding coal.

To who ? You don't live in the area and don't depend on the tourist industry for your livelihood.

Comment Re:Talk about creating a demand (Score 1) 334

So, this town's conclusion is (incredulously) that the wind farm is bad because one of the oil tankers that it renders obsolete might hit it. That's not the fault of the wind farm; that's the fault of the goddamn oil tankers!

You know nothing of ships do you ?

http://www.people.hofstra.edu/...

BTW those usage numbers are in tonnes/day.

Comment Re:Talk about creating a demand (Score -1) 334

But it can only happen if it makes economic sense. Very few people are going to lie down big bucks, only to then PAY even more for electricity. If I spent thousands of dollars on solar panels and a storage (batteries, etc) system, I'd damn well expect my recurring power bill to plummet if not disappear entirely.

Exactly. The whole problem with most "Green Power" solutions is they are little more than excuses to pick people's pockets.

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