Please show me a phone that has Google Play, but doesn't have other Google services forced onto it.

Thank you for finally seeing the point.

Not illegal, as they are enforcing the terms of their store that the developer agreed to.

Citation needed. There are plenty of apps that do better than Apple's versions also on the store.

False. See: any MDM provider and enterprise app distribution. And no, you don't have to use an OS X Server to do it. See: AirWatch, MobileIron, etc.

Which is in no way relevant to anything even close to what this is about.

And you still haven't read about what the EU is actually doing here - the current antitrust complaint is about SEARCH and not Android. They are starting a separate antitrust investigation into Android regarding force-bundling of Google services with Google Play, but no formal complaints have come out of it yet.

How did Microsoft prevent you from using a browser other than IE?

They didn't. And yet they were convicted of creating a monopoly by leveraging one they had naturally. And everyone here (likely including you) rejoiced.

Who's the troll now?

I think they are just caught up in the confusion that surrounds the Android ecosystem for most people.

In his particular case, Samsung is being the asshat. But that's not a very long stretch for Samsung.

Fanboyism trumps market economics every time. I personally want a healthy Android, and a healthy iOS - both systems push each other to be better, and we all win. Hell, a healthy Windows Phone in the mix wouldn't hurt either. A nice 3-way competition for my money.

Why people figure for one company to win, they have to completely crush the competition is beyond me - it only leads to irrational fanaticism that the company itself doesn't feel, and legal problems just like Google is now facing in the EU.

Apple doesn't give a shit if Android wants to take the bottom 60% of the market - they're perfectly happy owning the top 25%.
Google doesn't give a shit if Apple holds 25% of the market - they're happy with the 70% of the eyeballs looking at their ads, and inputting data into their indexing engines.
Microsoft probably gives a shit, because they've always been ruthless assholes. But, they're under 5% of the mobile market so nobody cares.
Blackberry hardly exists anymore, just like Symbian and the other also-rans.

Apple doesn't license iOS to others, and force other Apple services on them in order to have access to the iOS App Store?

Oh, right - you didn't RTFA.

No, but they have a monopoly on Internet search, and are using that monopoly to put Google Shopping results at the top of the page, above competitors. That's what the EU complaint actually is, with a side order of launching an investigation into Android forcing Google services down OEM throats.

Yeah, diplomats and politicians in Brussels really give a shit that Symbian died the death it deserved.

Or, they passed laws restricting certain trade practices, which Google was being investigated over and actively working on a settlement until they walked away. Shocking that the EU would then work to uphold their laws.

Apparently we're all cheerleaders for the EU when they uphold antitrust laws against Microsoft, but they're just protectionist assholes when they go after Google for the exact same practices.

[Microsoft | Apple] are not licensing their OS to other manufacturers, and then forcing those other manufacturers to use other [Microsoft | Apple] services in order to use the [Microsoft | Apple] monopoly app store.

You are not allowed to use one monopoly to leverage other business into another. It's the same concept that so many around here agreed with in DoJ vs. Microsoft - you can't use the Windows monopoly to increase IE market share artificially. Now change out "Windows" with "Google Play" and "IE" with "other Google Services" and you've arrived at the point that the EU antitrust watchdogs are at.

This is actually less true now - Nvidia is publishing their own driver packages for OS X because they are tired of Apple shipping ancient versions whenever they get around to including them in a point release.

They are labeled for Quadro, but they work just fine with GeForce. I'm running a Geforce GTX 780 Ti in my Mac Pro completely unmodified - all I don't get is the uEFI boot screens. Once the kext loads, everything is perfect.

The ten cards you sell ($4000 revenue) by spending 80 hours of developer time ($4000 expense) to fix extreme edge cases aren't worth it, as they still have to pay to manufacture the cards. Those developers could be fixing issues that will shift hundreds of thousands of units instead.

(Numbers based on $400 / card, $50/hr developer - not out of the realm of possibility)

Only if you launch at the coast. If he launches from somewhere like Texas, then there's still plenty of North America to land on.

I think the ultimate goal is to delete the barge and land on land - they're using the barge because they can put it somewhere uniquely devoid of anything that anyone cares about.

It takes far bigger thrusters to move the whole planet underneath the descending rocket...

Never mind that when the Pope says something into a microphone somewhere, it's rebroadcast through satellites to every corner of the globe - you took down Vatican City's web site!

That'll fix their little red wagon!

Murder, torture, and more murder.

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