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Comment Re:Exploding Rockets vs. Nuclear Power (Score 1) 523

it would have been the end of ESA due to the public outcry, and NASA would likely be in public relations trouble too.

Spaceborn or would-be-spaceborn RTGs have crashed many times with no outcry or PR trouble for the responsible space agencies, I don't see any reason why this would be any different.

Comment Re:Obama screwed us intentionally or intentionally (Score 1) 308

Anyway, I apologize for sounding like a dick in that last post. Good to hear another viewpoint here.

Thanks for being civil. I also apologize for probably coming across as patronizing. Most people I know actually support the popular vote laws, so it's also good to hear other opinions.

I do think the electoral college is a good idea. And, unrelated to my opinion about it, it is a fundamental aspect that allowed the Constitution to be finalized and ratified.

I definitely agree with the second part of the statement - and historically, I don't think there can be much argument on the point. However, while I don't see an inherent value in the indirect election system (especially today), because the Constitution allows states to determine how their electoral college votes are apportioned, it's important to separate problems caused by the states versus any caused by the electoral college itself as laid out in the Constitution.

I do see two issues with the EC itself. These are 1) the increased value of votes from less populous states and 2) the potential for states to undemocratically appoint electors (e.g. in the past some states had legislatively appointed electors). While the latter of these is probably irrelevant today, I'm not convinced that the president should be elected geographically, especially given that the House and Senate already are.

Outside the EC as laid out, I think the winner-take-all system for EC votes established by most states has some poisonous results for American democracy, especially the irrelevance of 'safe' states to the president. Presidential politics becomes distorted by an extraordinary focus on the interests of citizens in a few states, which denies safe-state voters presidential representation while encouraging swing-state voters to vote tactically rather than as they please (the issue which got this discussion going).

I think that (state-level) national popular vote legislation might be the simplest means to resolve these problems, without any need for federal legislation or changes to the Constitution. To clarify, the national popular vote legislation can be paraphrased as: "once states representing more than 50% of the electoral college votes have passed similar laws, then this state will give all of its electoral college votes to the candidate winning the national popular vote."

In any event, given that the electoral college and popular vote have only disagreed four times so far, I would say that any potential problems with the electoral college system are much less pressing than House district gerrymandering (probably the most important issue in American democracy today).

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