Easy, file a deprivation of rights under color of law suit. They are depriving you of your property without compensation or due process so it seems if it was caught on video it becomes a very clear case where they violated your rights. Add in the use of violence, threats of violence, or any bodily harm and it gets worse.

If you really want to put the screws to a police officer see if you can win a Depervation of rights under color of law/a> suit against them.

They are polite but they are very through and do their job well. I have never had a problem with Israeli security and find entering their country to be easier than reentry to my home country of the USA. It has always been a fairly quick trip from entry to the Ben Gurion airport to the main terminal but they have lots of quick checks. I have had a coworker who got the 3rd degree because he is usually an overly quiet guy who is honest to a fault. His mistake was on the have you had you bags under your sight since you packed them? He responded no because they were in the trunk of our driver's vehicle. This is a sure way to get additional questioning. Even when their X-ray machine had problem scanning my camera bag (metal chassis SLR with lots of metal bodied lenses) it was a simple matter of showing them it was a camera and answering their questions about it like where did I get it, when did I get it, does it take really take better pictures than a digital camera? After which they sent me on my way.

From the GP's recount it sounds like their problem was they wanted to leave their shit at the airport and leave which from my experience is the exact opposite of what you are suppose to do there. The times I was there they had you haul your crap around for as long as possible outside of the secure area probably in hopes that if it was going to blow up it would just blow your dumb ass up. Add in that they are watching and if you start looking a bit stressed or paranoid they can spot the terrorist.

A better question would be how many attempts has the TSA stopped? Keep in mind that the TSA and their regulations (apply to inbound international flights) didn't stop the shoe or underwear bombers but the passengers. So by my count they are sitting at about a -2.

Even here in the US some airports have roving bag searchers. The last time I traveled I had one who wanted to search my carry on bags. The roving agent came up and asked "Can I search your bags?" to which I replied no. At this point she got a very confused look on her face as I went back to eating my pile of over priced tacos. She gets on her radio and radios for some more help. So a couple more TSA agents come over and one of the new one asks "May I search your bags?" again I reply no. At this point the discuss amongst themselves and eventually one of them demands in a loud stern voice "Sir we must search your bags" and I replied "While I am legally required to allow you to search my luggage I feel that this search is a violation of my rights and I do not consent. By executing this search you are indicating to me your other methods are ineffective or that your employes are ineffective, but likely both." They open my small suitcase and find a work laptop, 2 changes of cloths, my keys, and a my work cellphone.

From this experience I gather that they are not use to people not saying yes to their requests and that they get fairly confused when someone challenges their authority. I'm sure someone recorded it hoping it would be the next "don't taze me bro" video but some of the other passengers asked why I wouldn't just comply initially and were shocked when I told them that I didn't have to as they didn't order me to. I wish more people would stand up as much as they legally can as I wasted about 15 minutes of each of the agents' time so that was net benefit for all as it probably prevented 3 other searches.

Just view them as a useless WPA and you will see why having them is important.

I don't think most people would be pleased with what the Israelis actually do for airline security, granted it is effective.

Security starts outside the airport. First as you approach there are guards with machine guns that operate a check point they stop your vehicle take a peak inside and wave you through. At this point you now will enter the airport grounds and proceed on a fairly long drive to the actual terminal with lots of cameras. As you walk in there are more guards with machine guns just watching.

Upon entry you will have to have your documents out and ready to show to an Israeli security official and hopefully you had some entity of importance sponsor your trip and provide certified exit paperwork otherwise the quick 5 questions plus verification number you were given and passport check turns into a longer interview. All this time you still have all your crap. After this you go and see the wonderful people at the x-ray machine and send your checked luggage through. If there is a question you pick up your luggage carry it over to a secure area and the nice security people make you unpack your bag with the issue and you answer their questions. If there is no issue or once done with further screening they apply the their stickers and you proceed to the ticketing counter where they ask you a few more questions, take your checked bags and give you your tickets.

Now you get to send all your carry on crap through the X-ray machine and you get to walk through a metal detector. They are very insistent that you leave your shoes on even if they are steel toe boots. If you trip the metal detector let them know what you have that is metallic and they wand and pat you down. If you have steel toe boots they wand you and then make you go and get a foot X-ray. At this point you still need to go through passport control where they will again ask you a few more questions. Finally after all that you get to go eat some crappy food in their terminal and go visit the tax rebate office there before you begin to board the plane. When boarding begins they open everyone's carry on luggage and search through it, sometimes if it is really a mess (the women with the suitcase of a purse with 15lbs of trash in it) they dump it all out on the table.

This also completely ignores the paperwork that you have to fill out to go there but I haven't had to do that since I have only traveled for work. The exit paperwork that your important sponsor, if you are lucky enough to have one, has you fill out stamps and sends to the airport requests all details about your trip. Where you stayed, where you went, what you did, where you spend each night and day. If you go to an interesting place where you might have had contact with bad people expect more questions at the airport. It is cheap (compared to what we do), effective, invasive as hell, and requires having competent people who are willing to profile the hell out of people.

No problem. It took me months of digging until I just happened upon a source that had some info. I would love it if manufactures realized that there was a market for better devices that people can tinker with that aren't crippled. If more people ask and purchase from a company that is willing to serve them then it becomes clear that there is a market that isn't being well served elsewhere. Also those LEA-6t modules are really nice if you want to do other stuff with them like have a proper stratum 1 time server as they have 2 useable pps lines that can be set at different highly accurate frequencies.

I mentioned that it was perfected by Gillette, not invented by.

Yes high pH soil is alkaline but a lot of plants people grow in their garden like a lower pH slightly acidic soil. I unfortunately live in an area with high pH soil (about 9 naturally) as it use to be a riverbed for a tributary of Glacial River Warren. I know that coffee grounds don't do much for soil pH and if that was the only benefit you were seeking you would be better served by adding some elemental sulfur or a bunch of peat moss to acidify the soil. Than again most people don't care all that much about their soil in their gardens and just use copious amounts of fertilizers or just change the dirt out periodically instead of trying to improve the soil quality. I have been slowly transforming the dirt in my garden into basically a form of terra preta.

That is the old razor and blades sales model perfected by King Gillette.

Coffee grounds aren't waste, find someone who gardens and give them to them. They make a wonderful soil amendment and if you have high pH soil it also help lower it some.

That seems like a pretty big if especially considering that if they did mobilize a force on par with the US population ready to attack we would in all likelihood turn them into a smouldering hole in the ground. If it becomes a choice between the US being exterminated or some other countries being exterminated the choice from the US perspective becomes real clear real fast. Personally we should have never gotten involved in the middle east those people all hate each other and supporting any one side pisses of at least 3 others. Why be a unifying beacon of hate.

I never said we couldn't have a new list.

Those are fairly expensive per shot from my understanding. I don't know what they cost the military but the .50 BMG round in the civilian market the cheap end is about $5 per shot. So even assuming the military gets a bulk discount because they bought a billion rounds (from the number pulled from my ass department) it seems unlikely that it would cost less than a $1 per shot. I have looked into reloading but given what I mostly shoot (Finnish M39 with 203grain bullets) I might be able to slightly better than the ~$0.50 per shot I pay retail but that would require finding some 7.62x54r reloadable brass. Given that it wouldn't surprise me if the materials for a .50BMG round cost more that a $1 and then is sold to the government for $1.01 if not $2.