Where's Our Terabit Ethernet? 218
carusoj writes "Five years ago, we were talking about using Terabit Ethernet in 2008. Those plans have been pushed back a bit, but Ethernet inventor Bob Metcalfe this week is starting to throw around a new date for Terabit Ethernet: 2015. He's also suggesting that this be done in a non-standard way, at least at first, saying it's an opportunity to "break loose from the stranglehold of standards and move into some fun new technologies.""
Misleading name, "Ethernet". (Score:5, Interesting)
No, he suggested that five years ago
We don't yet have the technology described (wave division multiplexing) in our homes because very, very few of us want to bother with fiber in our homes at all.
You can push an amazing amount of data over glass, no one would claim otherwise. You can't, however, drape it across the floor and up the stairs to your switch for a quick LAN connection... Not only does terminating a fiber suck, the first time the dog steps on that little yellow wire, end of connection. By contrast, I've used Cat5 as a structural material (tied a PC to a hook on the ceiling with it) WHILE USING IT for data.
So no, we won't see terabit ethernet anytime soon, unless someone figures out a way to push it over copper.
Bob Metcalfe, hater of open source (Score:4, Interesting)
Has this guy done anything relevant in the past couple of decades? Here's a choice quote [infoworld.com] of his:
Wait... you believe Metcalfe WHY? (Score:5, Interesting)
Metcalfe is also known for his harsh criticism of open source software, and Linux in particular, predicting that the latter would be obliterated after Microsoft released Windows 2000: Just because he did something really cool 35 years ago doesn't make him an expert on related matters now.
It's about Shannon's law too. (Score:5, Interesting)
In a way it can be tweaked a bit, and that has caused a confusion among those that aren't well into the technological difference between Baud (modulation changes per second) and BPS (bits per second).
Anyway - The classical phone modems can have a speed up to 56kbps, but effectively they stay at 28 to 33kbps. And that on a line that actually only provides 3kHz bandwidth. The trick is that in the 3KHz bandwidth you can have a carrier with less than 3000 modulation changes per second, often 2400. In each modulation change you not only have one bit transferred, but multiple bits. This is achieved by having a variation in both phase and amplitude of the signal.
So to utilize the cabling at the extreme speeds that a terabit Ethernet is you may have to resort to the same technique.
There have also been other techniques in use like using multiple carrier frequencies, like what the Telebit Trailblazer modems did. That technology was very resilient to interference compared to the CCITT standards, but it had other disadvantages instead.
Re:Stranglehold? (Score:5, Interesting)
There are still a few token rings and other such mesozoic cruft wandering around in the wild out there, but they still work--because some clever folks invented a way to get from one kind of network to another.
Keep in mind, also, that it's really only the early adopters--those who are willing to buy 1st-generation equipment--who would get 'screwed over', and they have, by definition (as the first generation of a given kind of thing is always several times more expensive than the 'production' generations), the money to waste on this sort of thing.
Re:Misleading name, "Ethernet". (Score:3, Interesting)
I told the fiber cable sales guy I was going to test their sample by placing it in the parking lot and letting cars drive over it for a while. The cable was tough basically it was a bundle of kevlar around a thin fiber strand. The kevlar absorbed all of the abuse. After all they lay fiber cable in the ocean. If it can take being dumped off a ship into the ocean it can take a dogs stepping on it. The trick is to specify the correct cable and don't just buy whatever is cheapest.
I will Settle For 1Mbps (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Who needs it? (Score:1, Interesting)
Of course I live in America so if I got 2Mbps through my broadband connection I'd be happy.
Re:Bob Metcalfe, hater of open source (Score:3, Interesting)
He can always point to DJB as a worse curmudgeon, so there is that solace in knowing he isn't the most disrespected hasbeen still seeking the limelight.
the AC
I don't think a smattering of emoticons in this post will stave off the imminent hater responses, and there isn't really anything I'd put a smiley to.
Re:Stranglehold? (Score:3, Interesting)
Early research indicates IP protocols will not scale well with high speed links. CPU load goes through the roof and because of limited buffer sizes relative to line speeds, retries and fallbacks plague applications. The end result is a slow, high speed link.
In a nut shell, for high speed links to become useful to a large category of users, IP, and especially TCP must be revamped. Some research has already progressed down this road but late I heard, much more is required.
Re:For those of you playing at home, a TB is (Score:2, Interesting)
If you are thinking about Raid-5, forget it, just stripe your drives in a RAID-0 and enjoy the performance benefits and keep frequent good backups and test your restores.
Why RAID 5 stops working in 2009 [zdnet.com]
Why aren't disk reads more reliable? [storagemojo.com]
End of Raid 5 [c0t0d0s0.org]
finally, BAARF - Battle Against ANY Raid Five BAARF [baarf.com]
HTH, HAND, don't cry.