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What Actually Happened to TechTV? 98

thelancer asks: "Early last year, Australian cable got TechTV. But not for long. It turned out the fix was already in, and TechTV left Australian screens at the end of 2006 when G4 pulled the plug on international distribution. As someone who only got a taste, but desperately wanted more (of what I saw in the first two months, not nearer the end), I've done the rounds and read some stories on the buy out, but nothing has given me the who, when, and the all important why? And they all assume you know the history. Can the Slashdot crowd put together a more complete picture on what really happened at TechTV?"
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What Actually Happened to TechTV?

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  • Here: (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 01, 2006 @08:50PM (#15828784)
  • It worked like this (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 01, 2006 @09:04PM (#15828844)
    1. TechTV spends years making quality television and building up relationships with a variety of cable providers who choose to carry TechTV.
    2. Comcast starts a tv station called G4 that nobody watches.
    3. Because nobody likes or watches G4, no cable providers will carry G4, except Comcast.
    4. Comcast, unable to convince their competitors to carry their crappy G4 channel, buys TechTV, kills it, and starts broadcasting G4 in its place.
    5. G4 now shows on a variety of cable providers.
    6. Profit.
    Is this true? I dunno, it's the way I heard it. If you want facts, then go read wikipedia or something, don't Ask Slashdot.
  • G4 (Score:5, Informative)

    by 9x320 ( 987156 ) on Tuesday August 01, 2006 @09:06PM (#15828851)
    G4 bought out TechTV and shoved out nearly all the non-gaming technology related programming, in its place putting more Cinamatech and X-Play timeslots, replacing Screensavers with Attack of the Show, and adding the show Cheat!.

    Then, when they realized video game players weren't watching because they were playing video games, they began to kill of all their video game shows one by one by replacing them with Star Trek and The Man Show. It's just another useless channel like the rest of them now.
  • hak5.org (Score:5, Informative)

    by sydbarrett74 ( 74307 ) <<sydbarrett74> <at> <gmail.com>> on Tuesday August 01, 2006 @09:09PM (#15828865)
    If you miss TechTV, check out hak5.org..I know these guys personally and they are awesome (they live 45 minutes from me). Leo Laporte has even guest hosted an episode of their show.
  • dl.tv (Score:2, Informative)

    by CyberBill ( 526285 ) on Tuesday August 01, 2006 @09:16PM (#15828888)
    It doesn't really matter what happened to the name 'techtv' because the best part of the station is still alive and well in webcast form. Check out http://www.dl.tv/ [www.dl.tv] its pretty good for hearing about new gadgets coming out and getting the 'big news' of the day. Plus its free!
  • by MBCook ( 132727 ) <foobarsoft@foobarsoft.com> on Tuesday August 01, 2006 @09:18PM (#15828896) Homepage

    I've been watching every episode for years. They've only given out a handfull of 1s, and I can kind of understand it. As bad as most games are, they are playable. It takes a special kind of game to get a 1.

    That said, most games get 2/3s, with a few getting 4s, and just the creme-de-la-creme getting 5s. They don't over-rate like most places who hand out 4s and 5s for anything that isn't un-playable.

    Of course, they never intended to give out a 0, but they did once. The game was a semi-truck racing game. There was no music or sound effects. The "race" was with another truck, which never left the starting line. The game looked terrible, and had practically no clipping or collision detection. It was the kind of thing you couldn't believe anyone would try to sell. I mean people try to sell things that just aren't fun or are terribly annoying, but this wasn't even a game yet. It was a tech demo for a tech demo for a preview for a game.

    X-Play isn't perfect, but they are pretty good. They are the only show left on the network that is good (except ST:TNG which they haven't managed to ruin yet).

  • by hawks5999 ( 588198 ) on Tuesday August 01, 2006 @09:24PM (#15828912)
    Here. [twit.tv]

    Not exactly, but if you want what TechTV was go here and then poke around. You'll end up finding Revision3 [revision3.com] and DL.TV [dl.tv]. Don't bother about what happened. Just enjoy what has resulted. TechTV controlled by the people on the air for the people who liked to watch it.

  • by bigbigbison ( 104532 ) on Tuesday August 01, 2006 @09:30PM (#15828931) Homepage
    The story of TechTV began with the MSNBC show, The Site [wikipedia.org] which starred Soledad O'Brien and a computer generated character, Dev Null, who was voiced and controlled by Leo Laporte. I never saw the Site, but TVNewser has a good overview of the show [mediabistro.com].

    After the Site was cancelled, came ZDTV [wikipedia.org] which was owned by Ziff Davis. When Ziff Davis sold the channel to Paul Allen, they changed the name to TechTV.

    During that time G4 [wikipedia.org] was started. Owned by Comcast [wikipedia.org], they bought TechTV and merged the channels calling it G4TechTV, closing down TechTV's San Francisco studio and cancelling Call For Help. From the start there were signs that buying TechTV was simply a way for Comcast to get G4 into more houses by canibalizing the audience of TechTV. They did not offer ScreenSavers host Patrick Norton a contract and while they initially were going to have Leo Laporte appear in pretaped segments, they never actually did that. They also cancelled Fresh Gear and all of TechTV's other shows except for the ScreenSavers and X-Play. Then several months later, G4 dropped the "TechTV" and any pretense that they were going to continue having any technology focus.

    After a few months, the Canadian version of G4 offered to hire Laport and begin to tape new episodes of Call For Help [wikipedia.org], informally called Call For Help 2.0. In August of 2005 the US G4 began to air Call For Help 2.0, but early in the morning with little to no advertising. After several months it was taken off the air. It is still airing in Canada and on the How To channel in Australia. Recently, it has been made available for purchase from Google Video [google.com] in the USA and is easilly found on torrent trackers.

    Now G4 has begun airing Star Trek:TNG and the original Star Trek, as well as the Man Show and Fastlane and increasingly decreasing videogame coverage. Many people have begun to call G4 a SpikeTV [wikipedia.org] clone.

    In brighter news, many TechTV alumni have gone on to particiapte in online podcasts and vid casts such as This Week In Tech [www.twit.tv], dl.tv [dl.tv], Cranky Geeks [crankygeeks.com], Hook Me Up [yahoo.com] and The Chris Pirillo Show [thechrispirilloshow.com] which, when combined, probably produce more original weekly content than TechTV ever did.
  • Re:G4 (Score:5, Informative)

    by 9x320 ( 987156 ) on Tuesday August 01, 2006 @09:49PM (#15828999)
    Exactly. Please mod the parent up---I know it's hard getting mod points being an anonymous coward. The Learning Channel used to show educational programming like The Discovery Channel, but then it slowly began to falter and began showing arts and crafts channels. Now its timeslots are flooded with HGTV style programs. There are only four television channels on basic cable worth watching now: The History Channel, The Discovery Channel, C-SPAN, and C-SPAN 2.

    The Discovery Channel and The History Channels' schedules are sporadic, so you have to check the schedules for a good documentary, but Modern Marvels has been consistently good. C-SPAN shows live coverage of the House of Representatives, while C-SPAN 2 shows live coverage of the Senate. True to the parent's word, both C-SPAN and C-SPAN 2 are available on the Internet at www.c-span.org for free, so you need not even a TV to watch.
  • by oneiros27 ( 46144 ) on Tuesday August 01, 2006 @10:01PM (#15829038) Homepage
    Cable has a limited number of channels that it can have on at any one time. TechTV was already well established in many markets. By merging G4 and TechTV, they ended up placing G4 on a whole lot of cable networks that wouldn't have otherwise bought G4 from their competitor (Comcast), especially based on the quality of the programming.

    They then cancel the TechTV programming, which got their costs back down to the original rate of expenditure, and for the cost of buying TechTV, they got their channel in all of the TechTV markets. And I'm guessing, that the cable operators have to pay them for the right to show their stuff, so they slowly make back their money from the purchase.
  • Re:G4 (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 01, 2006 @10:13PM (#15829085)
    Short version:
    TechTV = some good shows
    G4 = crap
    G4 Borg buyout of TechTV
    G4TechTV then gets rid of anything that was worth watching
    G4TechTV = crap
    G4TechTV changes back to G4
    G4 = still crap
  • Not quite offtopic (Score:4, Informative)

    by cgenman ( 325138 ) on Tuesday August 01, 2006 @10:27PM (#15829118) Homepage
    The name of the game was Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing [wikipedia.org]. It is the stuff of legend. If you find it, You're Not Winner.

  • Re:G4 (Score:2, Informative)

    by givim6 ( 992709 ) on Wednesday August 02, 2006 @07:57AM (#15830767)
    Great American Country indeed is a true video music channel, if you're in to country music --and millions of people are. cmt appears to be taking the mtv route, moving away from its video roots. It may be good for ratings, but it is sure to pi$$ off millions of music fans who had come to rely on that channel for a good dose of their preferred entertainment. On the other hand, GAC appears to be coming on strong and plays a bunch more music than cmt does. As they used to say on the TV ads: "Call you cable operator!"
  • Re:Yar (Score:3, Informative)

    by Phreakiture ( 547094 ) on Wednesday August 02, 2006 @08:56AM (#15831055) Homepage

    My cable connection is with a few coper wires connected to my phone exchange... I guess it's not cable in the american sense of the owrd, or in the optus/telstra cable sense of the word, but its good enough for me!

    I am American.

    Traditionally and historically, cable has been a coaxial cable run along the streets, usually fairly close to where the telephone lines are, operated, in most cases, by a different provider than the telco. The cable carries an RF spectrum of TV channels, some occupying positions on the spectrum that are not available to broadcast because they are in use by other services. That's what we mean when we talk about analogue cable.

    This is in a mutating state right now, though. Some of the spectrum has been sliced off, first for high-speed internet service, then for digital television, then for telephone service.

    The high-speed internet requires a modem that has a coaxial connector on one side and an ethernet jack on the other.

    The digital cable service requires a set-top box that connects to the coax and puts out a signal on a designated analogue TV channel (usually channel 3 or 4) and/or on a set of baseband connections and/or DVI or HDMI. Incidentally, traditional analogue cable also used converters like this in cases where you have a (very) old TV that doesn't have the cable channels or are subscribed to some premium channels, which would be scrambled, and need the converter to descramble them.

    The digital phone service requires a "terminal" which has a coax connection on one side and a POTS socket on the other. You have to provide power to it, though, and if you lose power, you lose phone service too. These are usually implemented as VOIP.

    You can also decouple the services. I get my television by satellite (better picture, better selection), my internet by cable (faster than DSL, FTTH not available in my area), and my telephone by traditional copper pair (it just works).

    I might point out, though that there is additional competition coming in. In areas where FTTH is being offered (by the telco), they are offering the same trifecta as the cable company. The satellite provider offers internet, but it is very high-lag and very high-cost. It is therefore mostly of interest for rural areas

  • by MrCopilot ( 871878 ) on Wednesday August 02, 2006 @10:43AM (#15831930) Homepage Journal
    http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/07/24/techtv-rebuilt -by-community/ [pirillo.com]

    They left Tv and moved to the web. All for the better.

  • Re:hak5.org (Score:5, Informative)

    by elrous0 ( 869638 ) * on Wednesday August 02, 2006 @12:37PM (#15832877)
    Actually, most of the old TechTV guys have gone to podcasting/videocasting. There is Digitial Life TV [dl.tv] with Patrick Norton and Robert Herron (the closest thing to the old Screen Savers you'll find), Diggnation [revision3.com] with Kevin Rose and Alex Albrect, This Week in Tech [www.twit.tv] with Leo Laporte, John Dvorack, Patrick Norton, et. al., and Infected [revision3.com] with Martin Sargent. And, of course, Call for Help [callforhelptv.com] continues on Canadian TV with Leo Laporte hosting. Videos for Call for Help are available for purchase on Google Video or through bitorrent if you look around.

    -Eric

  • Re:TechTV Revisited (Score:5, Informative)

    by acedtect ( 183616 ) on Wednesday August 02, 2006 @01:41PM (#15833391) Homepage
    I'll add a little perspective on the actual buyout. In 2003, Paul Allen decided he no longer wanted to play with TechTV and decided to sell it. At that time the network was in the red and was starting to stagnate in the number of homes it was in at around 40 million. They needed to improve programming and get into mor ehomes, but as an independent channel they couldn't get into more homes without leverage. So Paul wanted to get some money back and the execs wanted a partner that could help get them into more homes. To improve the programming they hired Greg Brannan, former Programming Director at E! Entertinment Television.

    It took a year (and some) to finally find buyers. In that time, the programming began to get better ratings. The INternational arm of the channel was profitable. The Web arm of the company was breaking even and the TV arm of the company looked to get into the black within a year if all went well.

    However, the sale privce of the company was still based on the prospectus issued by Paul Allen's Vulcan Ventures over a year ago. Fox, Universal, EchoStar, Sony and Comcast all expressed interest. At one point it was rumoured that Sony was a go and would buy the channel in order to take advantage of the control room's ability to launch other channels. However the deal did not get done and Comcast eventually won out. They got the network at a very afordable price.

    Comcast handed the property to G4 for evaluation and eventual merger. G4's CEO brought a team of G4 execs to San Francisco to meet and discuss integration. Greg Brannan proposed several schedules that involved taking the best of TechTV and G4 and creating one network. The recommendation was to keep the TechTV brand because of its successes so far that G4 did not have.

    On the web side of things we recommended keeping techtv.com and its 2 million plus monthly uniques. We would create show sites there for any G4 shows and integrate them into the TechTV.com infrastructure. Our engineers recommended keeping the co-lo and Sun servers as G4 only had two or so Windows boxes to run their site which had monthly uniques in the hundreds of thousands at the time.

    G4 left with all our feedback and cam eback with the decision that they would offer 100 or so people of the around 300 at TechTV jobs in LA. The Screen Savers, X-Play and Unscerwed with Martin Sargent would continue as originally produced shows. A couple of acquired shows liek Invent This and Anime Unleashed would go on as well. However the schedule would remain largely G4 shows. The website would be G4TV.com and run out of LA and work off the existing servers plus some added capacity. The Web staff would be cut from around 40 people at TechTV to 17, including 4 or 5 existing G4 employees. Of the entire TechTV Web staff, one graphic designer from TechTV moved to LA. Overall around 80 TechTV staff took jobs at G4.

    Within one month the Web traffic was cut in half. Within a few months, Unscrewed was canceled and many TechTV folks were laid off. Within 6 months G4 dropped TechTV from the name and changed The Screen Savers to Attack of The Show. The CEO of G4 eventually left the network and a new staff has taken over and tried to move the network to a more mainstream male audience, hence the star trek and man show.

    It was not a happy time for TechTV staffers by any stretch, but some good TechTV folks still work at G4.

    -Tom Merritt, former executive producer, techtv.com

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